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GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

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The working range is 1200mi, they don’t have a fuel gauge per se (there’s a sight glass on the tanks for the pedants) - it’s one of the roles of a fleet controller to track how many miles a unit has done and ensure it gets to somewhere it can be fuelled before that number gets to 1200.
As a matter of interest, what is the directly equivalent figure for a 159/0 ?

My question is 159/0 specific - it may be they are the same as a 158 but don't have figures for them either; also 159/0 might have been modified in this respect from 158 which equally I do not know, so all a question really.

Engines / power are not equal - 159/0 have the Cummins 400 hp engine, 159/1 (and /most/ 158 the 350 hp engine, so there may be a fuel range difference between 159/0 and 159/1 if their tanks are the same size; 16x have the Perkins 350 hp engine (some 158 have these, but not in units relevant to my question).
 
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1A32 again running as a pair of turbos today and then forming 1Z81 2300 to Oxford
Did this service have to reject passengers during its journey, especially east of Bristol Temple Meads? Here is the service in question, which got progressively late to 30 minutes' delay at Paddington, presumably due to not being able to keep up with IET timings:

 

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I haven't looked at turbo availability down here in Devon since December; three operating Paignton-Exmouth. The other four being 158 two car and 3 X 150 2 cars
Only 11 out of the 19 150s being used in Devon and Cornwall unless they are coupling up more 150s later in the day on Paignton-Exmouth.
 
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Did this service have to reject passengers during its journey, especially east of Bristol Temple Meads? Here is the service in question, which got progressively late to 30 minutes' delay at Paddington, presumably due to not being able to keep up with IET timings:

I had the misfortune of being on this last night - it was full and standing for the whole journey. I honestly could not believe what I was seeing when I arrived for the train at Bristol TM.
 

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I had the misfortune of being on this last night - it was full and standing for the whole journey. I honestly could not believe what I was seeing when I arrived for the train at Bristol TM.

I'm guessing there was a fault with the IET? If it was a 10-car then why couldn't it split and run as 5? If it was a 9 then that's different of course.
 

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Why are 16x being used on Bristol to London services? Is iet availability poor on weekends?
On this occasion I think it was due to a staff availability issue, the turbos normally come ECS back from Bristol anyway, so better to use them than cancel the service
 

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There was no driver for the 10 car IET to return back from London Paddington to Bristol (and hence Stoke Gifford) [1C35], along with another ECS, essentially would have left Stoke Gifford 19 cars short for service the next day, and was already short before that.

So therefore the decision (not taken lightly by any means) was made to use the Turbo stock to run the service, otherwise it may well have been cancelled.

It should be noted it should be a 6 car Turbo, but 2 cars didn't come from the LTV region last weekend, for reasons unknown.
 
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It looks like 165134 returned from Bristol to the Thames Valley instead of 165124 last night, and is having a day on Oxford shuttles. Meanwhile 165124 is on Bristol local services


 

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It looks like 165134 returned from Bristol to the Thames Valley instead of 165124 last night, and is having a day on Oxford shuttles. Meanwhile 165124 is on Bristol local services


As 165124 has a monitoring device fitted to 1 cab could it be related to that?
 

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It looks like 165134 returned from Bristol to the Thames Valley instead of 165124 last night, and is having a day on Oxford shuttles. Meanwhile 165124 is on Bristol local services


124 has ventured further and is on Paignton/Exmouth today
 
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165134 returned to Bristol yesterday on 3C50 as part of the Saturday trio loaned to the West, along with 165118 and 165126. Today 165126 appears to have worked 2M11 from Westbury to Swindon and then 5R11 to Reading TCD


I am not certain, but I think that 165118 and 165124 are both on St Philips Marsh. 5A96 tonight is unallocated, but journeycheck has

16:58 Taunton to London Paddington due 19:36 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 9 from Bristol Temple Meads. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:01/09/2024 15:14

RTT currently shows 802107 working 1A28 throughout to Paddington, but it looks like it may be swapped out for the pair of Reading 165s between Bristol and Reading?
 

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I am not certain, but I think that 165118 and 165124 are both on St Philips Marsh. 5A96 tonight is unallocated, but journeycheck has

16:58 Taunton to London Paddington due 19:36 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 9 from Bristol Temple Meads. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:01/09/2024 15:14

RTT currently shows 802107 working 1A28 throughout to Paddington, but it looks like it may be swapped out for the pair of Reading 165s between Bristol and Reading?
1A28 appears to have only stayed at Bristol for a few minutes, so I think it's unlikely that it got swapped to the 165s.
 
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1A28 appears to have only stayed at Bristol for a few minutes, so I think it's unlikely that it got swapped to the 165s.

I agree. journeycheck has also been updated to show 1A28 running through to Paddington as booked, although confusingly it still says 4v9. But 1A28 hasn't lost any time at Bath which I think it would have done had it been 165s

16:58 Taunton to London Paddington due 19:36
16:58 Taunton to London Paddington due 19:36 will now run as scheduled.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 9 from Bristol Temple Meads. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

automerged update on Monday

165124 & 165118 returned to the Thames Valley on Monday morning working 1A02 to Didcot

02/09/24 05:47 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 07:26 will be terminated at Didcot Parkway.
It will no longer call at Reading and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 9. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:01/09/2024 21:58


with consequent alterations due to their late arrival back in Oxford

05:10 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 06:15 will be cancelled.
07:00 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway due 08:46 will be started from Oxford.

06:04 Oxford to Didcot Parkway due 06:22 will be cancelled.
06:29 Didcot Parkway to Banbury due 07:15 will be cancelled.
07:28 Banbury to Didcot Parkway due 08:15 will be started from Oxford.
 
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Would anyone know the whereabouts of 165130, please?

I haven't seen this one for some months.
 
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It appears that 165129 relocated from Bristol to Reading as part of yesterday evenings ECS move from Bristol to the Thames Valley. Is this now a permanent transfer now that the Wolverton refresh programme is ending tomorrow?
 

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It appears that 165129 relocated from Bristol to Reading as part of yesterday evenings ECS move from Bristol to the Thames Valley. Is this now a permanent transfer now that the Wolverton refresh programme is ending tomorrow?

Longer term temporary (few months)

There are some other units requiring other works trips, from the East fleet this time.
 
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166210 moved East on Wednesday
5R71 1750 St Philips Mrsh H S T D to Reading

where it joined Bristols 165108 that moved East in the regular Sunday evening move last week

Readings 165104 went West to Exeter on Thursday
5Z76 1133 Reading Traincare Depot to Exeter Tmd
 

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165108 and 166210 moving East temporarily to help with availability struggles.

165104 went to EX for its exam vice RTCD for workload balancing reasons
 
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They seem a lot cleaner than the 165s. Maybe I’m just imagining it or maybe the west look after their sets better than our end do:lol:
 

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