No I think they have, I just happened to be on the morning one today and so was providing cast-iron confirmation as such.
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GWR Class 769 information. (Units no longer with GWR - Off Lease March 23)
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No I think they have, I just happened to be on the morning one today and so was providing cast-iron confirmation as such.
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You should have popped up and said Hello or did you join it at the Station?
Late in, late out - no conspiracy. First round trip was delayed Reigate/Redhill area and coming back out of Gatwick due to congestion following national GSM-R fault.
Unit performed flawlessly both runs, save a minor fault for the chaps with magic hammers to sort which would have zero effect on running performance.
Unfortunately - and I do understand the reasoning although I disagree with the betrayal of single-source-of-truth principles - RTT essentially makes times up for non- timing points using offsets and things like that. Sometimes it gets it wrong. I would always take all these open data platforms with a pinch of salt - they are not authoritative sources of train running information.
I joined at station on way out - If we’d come back on TCD I would probably have done, but we went into 4, and I was hungry! Way too hot to be walking all the way down there for someone used to a nice air-conditioned office!
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769930 coming off the Reading Line at Guildford, on the first run this morning, 19th July.
Not exactly pushed the boat out on the door contrast!
it’s such a dull paint scheme
Coach letters - that’s a new one (not counting when the 165s/66s moved to the Bristol area)
Ok I'll bite, I think the paint job is quite classy shame about the "curtain" at the front might have chosen a nice Cath Kidson print to brighten it up!
Now the question, why is there a "curtain" in the centre window?
I can think of plenty which are worse!
On a day like today, probably to try and keep some heat out of the cab!
It's the same as a GWR 150, 165 and 166, so why should it need changing? It shows that GWR is accepting the trains are an integral part of their fleet with specific operational qualities.
Green is considered a good colour for railway (and bus) use and it also seems to have a longer life than more garish colour schemes.
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It looks really dull on them too! on a grey day it looks almost black.
Somehow it looks better on HSTs/IETs but I don’t know if that is just because the trains themselves look more interesting or I just haven’t seen them in dull light!
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That's been there for many years on the 319s. Not exactly surely what it is, but it's certainly not a curtain!Ok I'll bite, I think the paint job is quite classy shame about the "curtain" at the front might have chosen a nice Cath Kidson print to brighten it up!
Now the question, why is there a "curtain" in the centre window?
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Ok I'll bite, I think the paint job is quite classy shame about the "curtain" at the front might have chosen a nice Cath Kidson print to brighten it up!
Now the question, why is there a "curtain" in the centre window?
Just a sun blind isn't it?
I think it looks stunning, that livery suits almost anything, including a dated South East EMU
Proper yellow stripe for 1st as there should be, too.
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Is this 769943 returning from Eastleigh?
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And it looks like its doing tests today on the NDL then going back to Eastleigh later according to RTT
Realtime Trains - 074B 0752 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Reading Traincare Depot
Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.
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And it looks like its doing tests today on the NDL then going back to Eastleigh later according to RTT
I don't think it will be 769943 as that would be headcode 5, it's a headcode 0 so it's a light loco path, maybe doing tests but i'm not too sureIs this 769943 returning from Eastleigh?
Realtime Trains - 074B 0752 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Reading Traincare Depot
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And it looks like its doing tests today on the NDL then going back to Eastleigh later according to RTT
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That's an obfuscated code, used by freight operators to hide the real code and hence the exact type of train involved.
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First digit is still the correct Class of train.
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Ah ok, thanks for the info.
Yes, this was my thought. About time. Should do the same across the fleet. Let's hope that GBR does this. And red for buffet/restaurant/shop/whatever, too.
Is the pale blue stripe for the accessible toilet / wheelchair space, or is it the bike space, I wondered? I think I can make out a wheelchair symbol so it must be the former.
Re bikes, did/do 319s have the tip-up longitudinal seats in the standard class end-carriage, like the 321/4s? It's been so long since I travelled on a 319 I can't remember! If so, I hope they were retained. Decent bike capacity in those, without needing to use the door bays.
Anyway, colour-coding with cantrail-level stripes is obviously correct, and this makes me think that the bike loading door(s) should also get a stripe (which colour hasn't been used … something at the purple end of the spectrum maybe) as a matter of course, it would really help to locate them! Looking along this train, I'd have no idea where I should go to put my bike.
Edit: Aha! I noticed in the 755 thread that these trains have a bright green stripe for the bike space. Related, if the bike space (or wheelchair space, or buffet) is located particularly close to one end or the other of a train, then that end should have a nice clear symbol to indicate this on the end. This really helps as trains roll slowly into stations in particular, to know whether one is at the right or wrong end, and how far one will need to move along the platform to get to the right place! Every little helps, with ease of use, and dwell times.
When wheelchair and bike space are colocated / shared / use the same door, perhaps a barbershop style affair, with diagonal stripes alternating the two colours. Ditto a barbershop for the accessible toilet / first, with yellow+pale blue.
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Ah, thanks, there's always something new to learn on here
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Blue is the disabled space. Green is sometimes used for bike spaces, though generally it is just simply the symbol on or next to the appropriate door
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I like the colour scheme, as I find it elegant and refined, but the doors are surprisingly similar in tone - I'm amazed it passed the requirements. Good to see the first class and wheelchair access finally properly delineated, after years of design-over-function failure.
Today's run to Gatwick aborted at Redhill.Is this 769943 returning from Eastleigh?
Realtime Trains - 074B 0752 Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) to Reading Traincare Depot
Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.
And it looks like its doing tests today on the NDL then going back to Eastleigh later according to RTT
In-cab shower?! The '1' on the cab-end to denote first is good (for anyone who actually understands its meaning!) but why not in black to be easily-visible, rather than white on bright yellow? I do wonder if the livery designers ever actually use their products.
Can't say fairer than that!
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I noticed yesterday afternoon that when 5Q11 approached Guildford heading towards Redhill, it stopped just outside (just before it came off the branch) to switch back to diesel, then ran straight through, rather than stop and switch at platform. Was that just so the platform wasn't tied up for as long?
Ok I'll bite, I think the paint job is quite classy shame about the "curtain" at the front might have chosen a nice Cath Kidson print to brighten it up!
Now the question, why is there a "curtain" in the centre window?
Just a sun blind isn't it?
I think it looks stunning, that livery suits almost anything, including a dated South East EMU
Proper yellow stripe for 1st as there should be, too.
Here's one on a Thameslink unit (not my photo)
https://flic.kr/p/CVXp2p
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Agree, its a nice livery.Ok I'll bite, I think the paint job is quite classy shame about the "curtain" at the front might have chosen a nice Cath Kidson print to brighten it up!
Now the question, why is there a "curtain" in the centre window?
Yes it is just a sunblindJust a sun blind isn't it?
I think it looks stunning, that livery suits almost anything, including a dated South East EMU
Proper yellow stripe for 1st as there should be, too.
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I passed it on my way into work this morning, I'll admit the diesel gen sets are quieter on the outside than I had seen in videos so far. Also a surprising sight - it's not often we have a 319 based unit pass through the town!
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Some pictures from yesterday at Eastleigh .
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Eastleigh 769930
Slightly overcast now as the return working of GWR 769930 speeds through Eastleigh on the fast line. It was working on the third rail. 11.25 Reading Train Care Depot to Reading Train Care Depot via Southampton Central
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Eastleigh 769930
GWR 769930 on, I guess, a test run, makes a brief stop at Eastleigh. It was working on the third rail supply. 11.25 Reading Train Care Depot to Reading Train Care Depot via Southampton Central
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