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GWR Cornish Night Riviera Sleeper and GWR Class 57 updates from Long Rock

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co-tr-paul

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Thanks all for the ID.
Still can't decide if they are smiling or miserable !!
The other.bit of news is 57603 has gained a vent for compressor replacing a window on one side/end.20231009_095522.jpg
 
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GWR has today issued a tender for painting four class 57s and sleeper stock (20 vehicles), has to be done away from GWR depot

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GWR have a requirement for painting of the Class 57 Locomotives (x4)and the Sleeper Carriage rolling stock (x20). This activity is required to be carried out away from GWRs operational depots but at locations familiar with operational rolling stock and the specific standards for painting of rail vehicles.

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GWR have a requirement for painting of the Class 57 Locomotives (x4) and the Sleeper Carriage rolling stock (x20).

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  • 50000000 - Repair and maintenance services

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** PREVIEW NOTICE, please check Find a Tender for full details. **
 

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Perhaps we’ll see the heritage livery 57s as mentioned above. But what of the coaches,they were only repainted from blue to Green a few years ago.
 

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...apparently the Dft insisted upon standard GWR green so not allowed anything different.... ( remembering artist impression of IET in allover chocolate.... ) .Even suggested coaches being named to help with booking...
Anyhow.. at Plymouth Laira, GWR 57604 Pendennis Castle is being prepped for engine removal as part of G Exam. 7/11/23. Taken as part of on duty...


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Ashley Hill

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apparently the Dft insisted upon standard GWR green so not allowed anything different...
So will 604 retain its GW green and lining with brass plates or will it be standard green and alloy castle plates?
As GWR is a private company and owns the 57s why has the DfT insisted upon standard GWR green livery,it’s akin to them telling me I cannot respray my car!
 

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So will 604 retain its GW green and lining with brass plates or will it be standard green and alloy castle plates?
As GWR is a private company and owns the 57s why has the DfT insisted upon standard GWR green livery,it’s akin to them telling me I cannot respray my car!
GWR does not own the 57s.
 

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So will 604 retain its GW green and lining with brass plates or will it be standard green and alloy castle plates?
As GWR is a private company and owns the 57s why has the DfT insisted upon standard GWR green livery,it’s akin to them telling me I cannot respray my car!

GWR doesn’t own the 57s, they are leased.
 

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I sit corrected.
As they’re leased who’s paying for the work being done?
It depends on the leasing arrangement over who directly pays, but ultimately it will be DfT/GWR as they either pay directly or through the lease.
 

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So will 604 retain its GW green and lining with brass plates or will it be standard green and alloy castle plates?
As GWR is a private company and owns the 57s why has the DfT insisted upon standard GWR green livery,it’s akin to them telling me I cannot respray my car!
604 will still carry its heritage green ( 3rd repaint in this scheme ) . As a passenger franchuse TOC rather than private, the DfT have control over certain things and unfortunately that includes livery now.
The C6 for the stock , although includes repainting, is also more for out of sight stuff.
 

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Why are the movements being made by road instead of by rail? Couldn't it just go as part of the consist locked out of use?
 

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Why are the movements being made by road instead of by rail? Couldn't it just go as part of the consist locked out of use?
Because of engineering works, service only running Friday and Sunday mainly until march. There are possible training runs but several cancelled due to sickness.
 

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...apparently the Dft insisted upon standard GWR green so not allowed anything different.... ( remembering artist impression of IET in allover chocolate.... ) .Even suggested coaches being named to help with booking...
Anyhow.. at Plymouth Laira, GWR 57604 Pendennis Castle is being prepped for engine removal as part of G Exam. 7/11/23. Taken as part of on duty...


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I'm guessing the G Exam needs a lot more than the engine removed.
Is nice to finally be able to see the panelling between the Engine Room and Rectifier Room with how much conduit has been 'lost' in this location by various mods over the years. Looks like GSM-R had it's cut too long...

Does very much vindicate some design choices myself and a colleague made a while back though that received some significant challenges.
 

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Not trailer as loco hauled and not tourist...only 2 tables !
T in TSOD (and indeed TSO) was never Trailer. The designation was Tourist Standard Open. It is the LHCS equivalent of an HST TS (which is Trailer Standard). Confusing, I know…
 

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