Now… if only we still sent fuel by rail, it could easily be tagged on to that. Remember the old Laira / St Blazey / Long Rock fuel tankers?…Even if that prevents it, and using the day time traction retention moves isn't workable, surely a third party such as ROG could be contracted to do these movements by rail.
Now… if only we still sent fuel by rail, it could easily be tagged on to that. Remember the old Laira / St Blazey / Long Rock fuel tankers?…
Now… if only we still sent fuel by rail, it could easily be tagged on to that. Remember the old Laira / St Blazey / Long Rock fuel tankers?…
Be careful what you wish for. The last time they dumped green we had all that FirstGroup blue and purple. Current livery is more classy than most TOCs’ these days.GWR green is so drab, with not even history to give it any credence. the original GWR coaching stock, including the multiple units, were always chocolate and cream. Only the locomotives were green.
What an unthinkable horror, too much like communism thatWhereas on a unified system it would just be the fuel and driver costs.
I ramber in BR days, which would have been the late 1980s, speaking to a train driver who had actually driven an 08 from Penzance to Laira. Obviously it had to be done overnight, but you can imagine the time taken to travel 80+ miles at only 15mph!Just use the 08 from Laira....... (Waits for comments from people who actually think I'm being serious)
Yes.I ramber in BR days, which would have been the late 1980s, speaking to a train driver who had actually driven an 08 from Penzance to Laira. Obviously it had to be done overnight, but you can imagine the time taken to travel 80+ miles at only 15mph!
One assumes that's more expensive than moving by road, due to the way the rail industry is fragmented. "You want a path for loco + coach". Sure, that's £x,000 in track access charges please. Plus the costs and profit margin for ROG. Whereas on a unified system it would just be the fuel and driver costs.
Well they've travelled a part of the GWML in place of a 57 a few times!I ramber in BR days, which would have been the late 1980s, speaking to a train driver who had actually driven an 08 from Penzance to Laira. Obviously it had to be done overnight, but you can imagine the time taken to travel 80+ miles at only 15mph!
Well they've travelled a part of the GWML in place of a 57 a few times!
Here's 08836 attached to the sleeper back in 2016.
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Monday 22 to Thursday 25 January | Will not run in either direction |
Monday 29 January to Thursday 1 February | Will not run in either direction |
Night Riviera Sleeper not running tonight in either direction for some reason.
Not mentioned on the Engineering works update either.
Monday 22 to Thursday 25 January Will not run in either direction Monday 29 January to Thursday 1 February Will not run in either direction
Cancelled tonight (Sun 28/1) due to ASLEF Action Short of Strike and also Friday 2/2 and Sunday 4/2. Sleeper isn't running on the dates above due to engineering work, but would have been cancelled anyway if they were. Info gwr.com/strike.Night Riviera Sleeper not running tonight in either direction for some reason.
Not mentioned on the Engineering works update either.
Monday 22 to Thursday 25 January Will not run in either direction Monday 29 January to Thursday 1 February Will not run in either direction
GBRF LTV Thunderbird 57312 heading tonight's up. Only 2nd time from Penzance since being hired. 57705 on rear.
Well, it's unlikely to be a ScotRail Class 158 vehicle!57605?
I don’t know. I’m presuming they’re staying green.Green or something different?
The paintwork is quite worn now so obviously due a repaint. Don't see any reason why they wouldn't stay green.I don’t know. I’m presuming they’re staying green.
The general (unconfirmed) consensus is that TOC's may well retain their brand but just be run by DOR, as per Northern/TPE/LNER.Coach in question, B , DSO , 12142.
No details of livery but expect a rebrand for June when become GBR whatever it is...
Far too early days for decisions on liveries anyway. There's so much needs doing before that.The general (unconfirmed) consensus is that TOC's may well retain their brand but just be run by DOR, as per Northern/TPE/LNER.