GWR operating short 'HSTGTi' sets (see diagrams section for workings)

[TwistedMentat]

Can they operate in multiple?

To follow on from swt_passenger.

Nope, they don't have the equipment needed for routine coupling and uncoupling. Only for emergency use or for hauling the power car somewhere.

 

[AnthonyRail]

Is the short set out 2moro? (Fri 18th)

 

[PHILIPE]

Is the short set out 2moro? (Fri 18th)

It's supposed to be but the time to be certain is in the morning. Doesn't go out Saturday as it's scheduled for maintenance at Laira until Sunday evening.

 

[DenmarkRail]

Hi, does anyone have the diagrams that this service will operate from/to PNZ from week commencing Monday 28th May?
Same question for 158s and IF IF IF there are any 80x trains testing down in Cornwall that week

Cheers

 

[DenmarkRail]

Hi, does anyone have the diagrams that this service will operate from/to PNZ from week commencing Monday 28th May?
Same question for 158s and IF IF IF there are any 80x trains testing down in Cornwall that week

Cheers

When I say "This service", I am refering too the new HST Mini sets

 

[Connor43002]

Hi, does anyone have the diagrams that this service will operate from/to PNZ from week commencing Monday 28th May?
Same question for 158s and IF IF IF there are any 80x trains testing down in Cornwall that week

Cheers

There is an IET testing to Penzance tomorrow and I think 158s are still planned to start... Not sure about the 2+4s though

 

[TEW]

158 not starting tomorrow apparently, insufficient drivers trained yet.

 

[co-tr-paul]

GW01 still on its 'test" diagram AFAIK. Can confirm when back in work tomorrow (Mon).

 

[Apedlar12]

158 not starting tomorrow apparently, insufficient drivers trained yet.

Is there the possibility a 158 could run it tomorrow or will it still be a while off yet?

 

[co-tr-paul]

GW01 still on its diagram and will be for some time yet. Second set November.... .

 

[RPI]

There are two coaches (I believe a TSD and a TGS) due back relatively soon, from a good source I've been told that there will then be 2 x 2+3 sets made up for the summer to go some way towards covering for 153's going off lease

 

[PHILIPE]

Todays is already formed as a 2+3 although could be fault

 

[nat67]

Todays is already formed as a 2+3 although could be fault

Does it have 43079 & 43156 on it?

 

[43096]

Does it have 43079 & 43156 on it?

No. They cannot work the sliding door set as they don’t have traction/brake interlock with the doors.

 

[nat67]

No. They cannot work the sliding door set as they don’t have traction/brake interlock with the doors.

But these two PC's have been working on test with 3 MK3's from Bristol to Laira recently if that what was being discussed.

 

[43096]

But these two PC's have been working on test with 3 MK3's from Bristol to Laira recently if that what was being discussed.

But on a slam door set.

 

[nat67]

But on a slam door set.

Why are they running round on a slam door set?

 

[D1009]

There's no more sets of sliding door coaches until well after the summer. It would be perfectly sensible for GWR to form up some 2+3 slam door HSTs to help with alleviating the current rolling stock shortage.

 

[43096]

Why are they running round on a slam door set?

Because it is a test run that doesn’t need the modified coaches. Probably a timing run or driver training.

 

[RPI]

The 2 x 2+3 sets I was referring to are power door sets, there has been a TSD and a TGS at Doncaster for ages being converted, it' once these arrive that they will reform the sets

 

[43096]

The 2 x 2+3 sets I was referring to are power door sets, there has been a TSD and a TGS at Doncaster for ages being converted, it' once these arrive that they will reform the sets

I think it's a TS and TGS that are back next. I have also heard that they will form 2 x 3-car sets when they are back.

 

[Bessie]

So the basic laws of physics must mean a 2 x 3 car set is faster than a 2 x 4 car set. If so welcome to the HST-R

PS: For non petrolheads the Golf R is a faster version of the Golf GTi

 

[Dai Corner]

So the basic laws of physics must mean a 2 x 3 car set is faster than a 2 x 4 car set. If so welcome to the HST-R

PS: For non petrolheads the Golf R is a faster version of the Golf GTi

Though will the more complex laws of physics as applied to mass and braking force mean a lower top speed is enforced for the shorter trains?

Can’t think of a motoring analogy, sorry.

 

[PHILIPE]

Back to 2+4 today

 

[Apedlar12]

Back to 2+4 today

Yep, I don't understand why they can't use a 2+4 set of slam doors either to help the 150s out until they get another power door set, must be a shortage of coaches or another reason...

 

[co-tr-paul]

48111 back in following repair. 016/187 currently doing honours.

 

[paulwestwood]

Yep, I don't understand why they can't use a 2+4 set of slam doors either to help the 150s out until they get another power door set, must be a shortage of coaches or another reason...

Maybe not enough Train Managers to cover the extra, West Conductors don't sign Slam Door stock to cover for the 150's.

 

[RPI]

I think it's a TS and TGS that are back next. I have also heard that they will form 2 x 3-car sets when they are back.

Yeah.... That's what I posted originally

 

[43185]

Was on holiday last week in Shaldon (Teignmouth) & was able to get loads of hst pics etc as they ran opposite our holiday park. Was surprised when on the first morning a four car green hst ran by & returned about 50mins later. Set had power cars 43187 & 016 & performed all week long
It's diagram, & I haven't looked elsewhere on here to see if this has already been posted, is
06.00 PNZ - EXD 09.16 2E12
09.26 EXD - PNZ 12.47 2C45
12.57 PNZ - NTA 15.49 2A85
15.55 NTA - PLY 16.38 2P49
17.55 PLY - PNZ 19.51 2C51
20.18 PNZ - PLY 22.22 2P96
22.42 PLY - PNZ 00.41 2C54

Also saw 43004 which is a new one into the green livery, 002 which of course is in the original blue & yellow livery & 005 also in the new green livery which begs the question, bearing in mind it was part of the original set with 002, why the hell didn't GWR or whoever keep 003 along with its Brunel nameplate in service down this way ? Muppets.
My favourite 43185 Great Western made a couple of appearances as did 172 Harry Patch & then 43092 & 098 coupled together running back up my way to St Philips Marsh depot about 19.00hrs one evening, knew these things happened but had never actually seen it myself.

 

[43096]

Also saw 43004 which is a new one into the green livery, 002 which of course is in the original blue & yellow livery & 005 also in the new green livery which begs the question, bearing in mind it was part of the original set with 002, why the hell didn't GWR or whoever keep 003 along with its Brunel nameplate in service down this way ? Muppets.

Always find these sort of comments amusing. Decisions on vehicles being retained/off-leased/transferred elsewhere are made on a sound engineering and commercial basis, not because the spotters think it is historically significant or whatever special livery they carry.

That is the basis on which Angel and GWR have made the decisions. To reinforce the point, 43002, 43172 and 43185 are all not being retained by GWR.

Those who think decisions should be made on any other basis are - to use your word - “muppets”.

My favourite 43185 Great Western made a couple of appearances as did 172 Harry Patch & then 43092 & 098 coupled together running back up my way to St Philips Marsh depot about 19.00hrs one evening, knew these things happened but had never actually seen it myself.

43092/098 were not actually going to SPM, but heading light engines to Wabtec Doncaster as the next two for repaint and traction/brake interlock mods.