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Mike996

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Greetings all,

I guess this is a good problem to have in this day and age,

I find myself in the situation that I have to choose between 2 jobs both selection processes have been long and I did not believe I would get both jobs and I would have been happy with either but I got both one is to start next month and the other in a couple of months.

One is police officer for the London MET and the other is trainee train driver for Crossrail.

What I'm worried about being in my early 30's is that this is probably my final career change so whatever job I get I plan to do it for the rest of my life, everyone is considering me crazy that I'm not jumping on the Crossrail job without even thinking about it

My main concerns are that I will find myself in 10 years or so without a job because trains will become automated and will not need drivers anymore and I don't see where I could go at 40 jobless and with only train driving experience at least if it happens with the police there's plenty of options transferring to another force/country there's good well paid security jobs for ex-police officers...

If it would be only about money I would chose the train driver job and never look back, but with train driving you'll be stuck at 55k and that's that as in the police if lucky and play your cards right there's opportunity for promotion and to go beyond that...

Any input advice is highly appreciated

I am not asking anyone to make a decision for me just thought hearing from other people will help me in making my decision

Thanks to all for taking the time to read this!
 
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You can be a Driver Instructor, Driver Trainer, Competence Development MAnager, Senior Operations Managers or even Directors, Driver Manager
 
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I doubt in ten years time train driving will be so automated you wouldn't be required. I'd go driving I think.
 

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Police Officer - the job is about dealing with people.
Train driver - you're in your own company for 8+ hours a day.
Which do you prefer?

As already stated, Driver can be the start of an operational management career. However, if you go into management, you loose many of the advantages of driving, especially job security. I wouldn't worry about driverless trains just yet. We are a long way from that being a reality, the infrastructure investment would be massive and the timescale for the first stage, ERTMS, is slipping already.
 

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I wouldn't worry about losing your job due to driverless trains. It is likely to be 10 years or more before they even start being introduced on the Underground and I can't see them coming onto the National Rail network until after you will be retired.

Also, to earn more than 55K, you are probably going to need to become a Chief Inspector or higher, only a small percentage of new recruits are ever going to get that high.
 
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I have three weeks left as a police officer after 10 years service and waiting n a talent pool to start driving. For me the police has changed quite drastically in the last 10 years. Not for the better and I envisage it will get worse. However, if you join now and have never experienced it other than modern day policing you may not find that at all and as such, may enjoy it.
As someone said above it is what do you think you prefer as everyone is different. Weigh it up and choose what you think is right. Good luck with whatever you choose
 

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Go for the drivers job, my other half works for the police and it sounds horrendous compared to the railway
 

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I can't say anything useful about the two options but I can point out, from personal experience, that being 40 and out of work, and needing to look to a new opening, is no longer something that is at all unusual or even unduly difficult to deal with. Having recruited people in various places, I would say that often a good candidate is one who has thought a bit more laterally and realised his transferable skills are rather more manifold than initially believed.

That said, the experts are telling you Crossrail won't be automated in your time! I suppose the middle bit might be, following the Thameslink changes, but the rest sounds as if it's a long way off.
 

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Greetings all,
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What I'm worried about being in my early 30's is that this is probably my final career change so whatever job I get I plan to do it for the rest of my life........

Its more than possible to change careers later in life - much more so than the media would have you believe. Indeed as technology changes many accountants will become automated too, so changing careers 3 times in one's life might well become the norm. I'm over 50 and and going to become a signaller in a ROC in the new year.
 

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I'm looking to leave the police after 14 years in and I agree it is definitely not what it used to be. Promotion is quite a fight in our force and at the moment and many are going for just a couple of postings. These postings can be anywhere in the force. For what it's worth it would consider what job you would like to do rather than the prospects

Good luck :)
 

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You have to do what your heart feels is best for you at this given time. Both sound like fantastic opportunities, but with most things in life especially jobs, nothing is guaranteed. Do what you feel you could excell in the most and consider as said above: the loneliness of a train driver for up to 9 hours a shift vs the hectic ness of a met officer on the average shift in central London.
 

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I made the switch from the police to train driving so perhaps can shed some light:

Policing cons
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Pay: A Met new joiner will be on about £25K (figures include £6k London weighting). It used to take about ten years to get to £39-40K, but I gather that timescale may have reduced slightly. Try the Home Office website. A new police sergeant will be on about £45k, Inspector about £50-55K, Chief Insp (soon to be disbanded, watch this space, about £60K), Superintendent about £70-80K. If you reach Inspector within ten years you're doing very well. Many try and fail. Your pay scales are decided by the government *major klaxon warning number one*. We had a three year pay freeze when I was there, which is why I'm perplexed when railway staff advocate rail renationalisation. You will pay 15% of your monthly pay into the New Police Pension Scheme *major klaxon number two*. It's not a bad scheme, but it's changed from final salary to career average, so not as good as it used to be. The scheme change twice whilst I was there...which means it will probably change again within the next ten years.

Travel: You no longer receive any travel benefits apart from the London Underground, so if you have to get overground trains you'll have to fork out for it like everyone else. You'll be working alongside PCs who have ten years service and can get from London to Brighton, Didcot, Southend, Leicester, Brum on old ATOC privileges for nothing.

Shifts: If posted to uniformed response when you start, you'll be doing earlies, lates and nights in the same week (2x2x2) and won't know whether you're coming or going. On that pattern you then officially have four days off, but the first is spent sleeping. And the fourth is sometimes used as a training day. Doing that combination of shifts every week is a killer. Neighbourhood teams and CID generally do earlies and lates, but do nights every so often. You will leave work late on a very regular basis, especially when you're new. If someone gets stabbed in hour 9 of your 10 hour shift, you can't say 'sorry mate I finish in an hour'....you'll be down the hospital for the next few hours with the victim and book off three or four hours late. Same with late arrests - you 'own' that job through custody until you've done the minimum for initial investigation and handed the prisoner over to CID etc. There you are, breezing along on a summers day with 30 minutes to go on your 8 hour early turn then - bang, there's a juvenile shoplifter at Boots with you name on it (oh and they're pregnant and don't speak English). That's another three-four hours added onto your day in the click of a finger. Events! And for that reason you can't ever plan anything on your work days.

Rest days: You will have a rest pattern but it won't be guaranteed - by that I mean you might be off Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs next week (having finished 2x2x2), but you can have any of those canceled at a moments notice if there is stuff happening - unforeseen events, e.g. terrorism, riots etc. They don't like cancelling RDs, but they do it if they have to. Demonstrations etc are often policed through RD working (i.e. you have been compulsory warned for that day a few months/weeks in advance -eg your fourth rest day). Same with CPS court warnings (which can last one, two, three days etc). If these fall on rest days - tough. There are some dates in the year which you will only get off if you're lucky in the very limited annual leave draw - e.g. August bank holiday, Christmas, New Years Eve, England football etc.

Staff welfare: You are essentially a digit. The Met employs 50,000 people (about 31-32,000 cops). The atmosphere can be a little hard nosed and uncaring. If on your regular shifts you get off at 0300 due to late arrest, getting home is your problem...there won't be any lifts or taxis. Your team supervisors will have gone home at 2300 when the shift officially finished. You'll be at the mercy of the incoming 'shift' and you don't exist in their eyes! Tonight is another good example - NYE shifts will be finishing at 0400....if you're one of the cops on duty in central London you'll be kipping on the floor of the nick until the first trains at 0730/0800, unless you're lucky to have a night bus going you're way or are getting ferried back to an outer borough nick in a police carrier where you've parked your car. If you work in a central borough then parking is a nightmare. The Met have sold off a lot of their real estate due to budget cuts, so being able to park at a nick is a luxury rather than a right. Most cops use public transport, unless they work in outer boroughs - e.g. Havering, Bexley etc that have residential streets near the nicks. Oh and getting followed back to your car by the local scum bags, lets not go there....

The public: Behaviour is generally getting worse, a growing number of people have no respect for the uniform. You'll have mobile phones shoved in your face when you're just trying to do your job. People will spit at you, punch you etc etc. They won't get punished at court. People will submit malicious complaints against you just to muddy the waters, even if you were 100% justified in doing what you're doing. These drag on for months causing you undue stress.

The work: 90% of police work is mundane monotony, having to deal with societies dregs. Standing outside for eight hours in January guarding a crime scene, or guarding a prisoner at hospital who've you've had to strap the bed because he keeps trying to hit you or escape. Strip searching someone in custody who has sh*t themselves. Reporting endless 'domestics' of Wayne and Waynetta slob, or the 'missing' kids who are seldom missing. More and more police time is taken up with tasks which should be the preserve of other agencies, but thanks to the Tory cuts tend to fall onto the police - people having mental health crisis, concerns for welfare in the community etc etc.

No industrial rights: The Pol Fed is not a union. They help you when facing the music - e.g. complaints, court etc. You have no industrial rights. You can't strike. You can't work to rule. If you don't like something, tough.

Breaks - on uniformed response (and CID) in busy boroughs, getting time to eat can be a nightmare. You've worked your butt off, managed to grab a kebab, just about to eat it when your Sergeant turfs you out for the next emergency call. Kebab goes in the bin. Breaks are a luxury, not a right. On bad days you will do a 10hr shift without eating. At Notting Hill Carnival you might do 18. Oh and of course the "got time to eat have you" comments from the oh so adoring public. Tesco sandwichs eaten in the car are the norm.

Policing plus points
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Variety: every day really is different. You can't say that about too many jobs. One day you're cutting a dead person down from a tree, the next you're stood on The Mall wearing your tunic and white gloves waiting for the Queen to go by. Or blue lighting someone to a hospital so they see their critical relative in A&E or returning a confused elderly person home before they come to harm.

Career development: there are numerous avenues to specialise and/or get promotion. This is more so in the Met than county constabularies due to its vast size. Competition is usually fierce as people try to escape the drudgery of day to day policing.

Results: seeing someone you nicked/investigated getting a decent sentence at court is very satisfying. You won't see that as often with routine uniform work but if you move into CID and undertake more serious investigations you'll be in court more often.

Develops you as a person: soft skills dealing with people, dealing with trauma, accidents etc. It definitely made me more resilient. Standing in the witness box under cross examination in front of a jury for three hours is a test.....

The people you work with: on the whole great guys and gals who you can share a laugh will and have each others backs. The dark humour will get you through those dark times....

Stories for the grandkids: you get to see/do some things that other people will never get the chance to. Front row positions during ceremonial events like Remembrance Sunday, the Queens birthday parade, the Olympics etc. If these sort of things float your boat, obviously....

Excitement: it does happen...just not as often as portrayed in police TV shows. You will have foot chases, car chases etc etc. You will Taser someone. And once you've apprehended your 'man' it's then time to calm down and spend the next few hours writing war and peace statements. If firearms and fast cars interest you then obviously there's the chance to diversify into firearms or traffic postings. Cruising down the Thames with your Ray bans on...

Job security: You won't get made redundant, and if you manage to keep your nose clean you'll have a job until retirement. When that will be seems to move with every new Home Secretary!

Read this from a couple of years ago, nothing much has changed: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...olice-former-met-officer-on-service-in-crisis


I'm new to driving, but here's what I think of it so far:

Train driving cons
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Solitary work: bad if you don't like your own company. Thankfully I like it.

Monotony: - on Crossrail this will probably be worse than elsewhere as it's one route, same with Gatwick Express etc. I think that would bore me to pieces. Thankfully we have a variety of routes at our depot. Once you've done a few years at Crossrail and have your key, you could move elsewhere...

Earlies - the earlies are very early, this might bother you depending on your commute. But then your working day is over quicker. Personally I feel better on the railway shifts than the policing ones.

Money trap: the money is very good, so good that most stay in the driving grade. You can go into management positions, but then you risk job security and no guarantee you'll earn as much (at least to start with).

Incidents: very easy to have them if you don't remain vigilant (and also being aware of what other people should be doing - e.g. platform staff). Too many safety of the line incidents will reduce your desirability with other companies.

Automation: a long way off yet, but it will come eventually. Even when it does I think trains will still have human oversight in the cabs. I assume Crossrail would be more of a candidate for ATO than other routes as it will be one traction type and has similar characteristics to the Thameslink core...

Train driving plus points
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Unlike policing, good pay from the moment you're qualified, good pension and regular increments which the government has no say over.
Unlike policing, excellent travel benefits (ATOC 75% etc)
Unlike policing, strong union representation
Unlike policing, you have a guaranteed rest day pattern at a TOC and won't have them cancelled.
Unlike policing, its a 35 hour week, not 40
Unlike policing, at TOC more often than not you'll finish on time or thereabouts (unless it goes really wrong)
Unlike policing, you don't have passengers trying to take lumps out of you on a regular basis (yes I know there are always exceptions)
Unlike policing, you're sat in a warm cab not freezing your nuts off outside
Unlike policing, at a TOC you won't be doing full nights every week (although at some depots you will do some now and then).
Unlike policing, you do the job on your diagram and don't have managers chasing you down on the radio 24/7 asking what you're up to.
Unlike policing, your 'paperwork' will amount to a few lines on a 'please explain' or an incident report sheet
Unlike policing, you get a defined break on your diagram

I could go on and on (please no, stop!!). Perhaps I'm a little biased, but those are my initial thoughts. I enjoyed the first few years of policing...but then as time went on, dealing with people (often drunk) you require the patience of a saint.

You could always try one and, if you don't like it, try the other. If you try policing, then switch to the railways and don't like it, the police will always take you back as rejoiner (used to be within five years of leaving, it might have changed).
 
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26 years as a Met police officer, start trainee driver course in February, absolutely no contest, roll on February.
 

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I can add little more to the above but I'll say this - there are a lot of ex-police on the railway. There are very few ex-railway in the police. I think that probably tells you all you need to know
 

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.......because trains will become automated and will not need drivers anymore ...
It will be a long time before that happens on the main lines out of Liverpool St/Paddington, and even then the train will still be staffed by someone competent to drive in an emergency. You have nothing to worry about in this respect!
 

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If you can hack it, go for the driver job.

As someone said upthread, no contest. I have a colleague who just moved over from the Met. A railway career, if you are competent enough, is miles better, all round.
 

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I made the switch from the police to train driving so perhaps can shed some light...

I'd just like to say that this is an excellent post. Very insightful and detailed, and highlighting the role the police play in compensating for more appropriate, but inadequately resourced, agencies is, as always, worthwhile.
 

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Mike996, I've just left the Police after 10 years to start as a conductor 3rd January, I'm really sad to have left the Police as it was an amazing job, but with cutbacks and other constraints, the job is not what it used to be! I loved all our my 10 year service and glad that I had that opportunity, but things will never be the same within Policing, so I'm glad of a new start doing something different. The choice is for you to make and no one can make it for you, but it's true lots and ex-Police end up on the railway but the same can't be said for the other way round. Good luck with whatever you choose, I'm sure that you'll make the right choice for you
 

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Go for the driving.
Cut backs to police and local government are not going to stop any time soon!
 

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One is police officer for the London MET and the other is trainee train driver for Crossrail.

I can't speak for the Cozzers but I play with the Choo Choos

What I'm worried about being in my early 30's is that this is probably my final career change so whatever job I get I plan to do it for the rest of my life, everyone is considering me crazy that I'm not jumping on the Crossrail job without even thinking about it

Same here. I started around 30 too and that was my thought. I had been in various jobs and someone I knew was in Freight and put my on the right track so to speak.

This is certainly a job where you can stay for the long term. Keep your nose clean and there is no reason why you would lose it. I've been TUPE'd a few times and NEVER felt under threat of redundancy. Sadly I'm in a position now where that may be the case as my depot is dropping its establishment level but the huge benefit of being a Driver is that you have a skill that is in demand and you can easily transfer almost anywhere in the country. Many Drivers transfer TOC's /FOC's

Career wise this is also a good job to have as its mostly vocational based. There are plenty of industry positions available for internals and the Driver career path can lead to Instructor > Trainer > Driver Manager. I've seen a few Drivers go towards Operational roles where they have started out on focus groups etc and then moved into investigation teams and then up towards Operational Safety etc.
My main concerns are that I will find myself in 10 years or so without a job because trains will become automated and will not need drivers anymore and I don't see where I could go at 40 jobless and with only train driving experience

You would be 40, with a Driving Licence, and in an industry that likes to recruit internally. Unless automation goes fully network wide you will be perfectly fine. Personally I'm looking forward to automation and my guess is that it will eventually go towards a level of ATO where there is still a Driver up the front. I noted your Crossrail so you will experience automation from the outset but full driverless trains are years and years away.

at least if it happens with the police there's plenty of options transferring to another force/country there's good well paid security jobs for ex-police officers...

Posted already but its very very easy to transfer as a Driver.

If it would be only about money I would chose the train driver job and never look back, but with train driving you'll be stuck at 55k

I started on around £30k and still not at £50k Our wages tend to get overinflated by various people. For the salary you need to check each TOC/FOC's website and make your wage decision based on that. There is a wide salary range across all of them. I don't doubt that in a few years I'll be on £55k and the benefit of being a Driver is that we do have a Union and we do get an annual wage increase. Generally we keep up with inflation. T&C's are generally quite good and its a matter of preference. At the moment the 4 day week 9hr day really works for me and is a decent work/life balance.

Any input advice is highly appreciated


I've kept my response more in line with your post but there are a few threads you will want to read on this forum. The most recent one is "is being a train driver all its cracked up to be" There are others about "becoming a train driver" and a few about what's it like being a train driver.

There are many negatives but overall the positives outweigh them. FYI I'd switch to Crossrail in a blink.

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Some links for your edification

Ex Police Officer
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=132890

Reality of being a Train Driver
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=126811

A Career in the railway
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125818

About to start but not excited
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=109748
 
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I've been a police officer for 13 years. I do like my job (at times) but I certainly wouldn't recommend it and will not let my children join. It has got worse with each year. The reality is I need to stay to pay my mortgage and look after my wife and kids. If I was mortgage and child free I'd leave and would more actively seek a role elsewhere (railway being one place).
I would think very hard about joining the police. It has changed hugely and will continue to do so. I know what I'd do if I had the choices you have.
 

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I've also currently work for the MET and seeking a way out. Been there almost 13 years and it is a truthfully awful organisation to work for. Once you sign on the dotted line that's it your a number to use and abuse. Senior management will drive you to insanity.
Take the driver job and don't look back, hopefully I'll see you there soon.
 

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I've also currently work for the MET and seeking a way out. Been there almost 13 years and it is a truthfully awful organisation to work for. Once you sign on the dotted line that's it your a number to use and abuse. Senior management will drive you to insanity.
Take the driver job and don't look back, hopefully I'll see you there soon.

Very true. The organisation 'gets' to people more than the work. It went seriously downhill under Stephenson and Hogan-Who. There needs to be a big clear out at the top. The atmosphere might change under a new Commission next year, but I wouldn't bank on it. The number of people resigning or looking for work elsewhere is staggering.

As an aside to my original post...what I have gained is also immeasurable. Family/friends say I'm happier, not so stressed or looking deathly white. The work/life balance is also better: I have certainty on rest days; I know when the shift will finish (and if the last train is 30 late its no big deal, it beats being stuck in custody four hours after you should of booked off or being kept at work due to 'events').


Another link for your consideration:
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=138277
 
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Wow this is an amazing forum, thank you very much to everyone who took the time to reply highly appreciated I've been reading all the posts over and over again so thank you!

And thanks IKB for your reply it was very eye opening detailed and is being very helpful!

And thanks to ComUtoR for the reply and the links!

Thank you to everyone!


At first I was going more towards the police thinking it will be more exciting/interesting but the more I ask the more I am being warned about it by ex Police officers I do not think I heard one single recommendation that encouraged me to pick the MET.

I've been trough a lot of jobs and at the end of the day work is work.....so might as well be well compensated for it...

I also know there's nothing worse than doing a job you hate on a very bad salary...

To IKB they have changed the starting salary the offer I got from them says '£22,869 per annum (pa) basic salary plus allowances of £6,711pa'

What I'm thinking about also is that after probation going into a specialist role wont be as bad as regular policing (I'm ex-army so aiming for firearms/ARV).

I do need to think really long and hard as I think this decision I am about to take will shape the rest of my life and I'm very cautious about not making the wrong one.

I know it's not a problem and maybe I sound like a drama queen, and a lot of people would take either job without even blinking and be grateful, and I feel a little guilty because of that also, but at the end of the day I'll have to choose one...
 
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It's very disturbing to read about the number of police officers leaving the service. The Tories are the natural party of law and order so should be trying to sort this out.
 

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I'm just about to go into my tenth year as a Response Officer in the Met and am hopefully starting as a driver with Thameslink in a month or two once I overcome a medical hurdle.

IKB's post really is spot on. The final straw for me was when they changed the rota last year. While they still claim its 6 on 4 off they've altered some shift lengths so we work a number of extra 'aid days'. So for this month I'm doing 7 on and 3 off for it's entirety. And you're sleeping for that first day because you finish at 7am. And then you're off to bed earlyish on the last day.

They actually had to alter it slightly towards the end of last year to give us some days back as sickness went through the roof and call times weren't being hit (which as any officer will tell you is the single most important stat for a response team) due to the change in handovers between teams.

I can't wait to leave. And three other people on my response team have got applications with TOC's on the go too. Even my borough commander mentioned the number of officers leaving in his Christmas e-mail. It's pretty sad really.
 

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I'm ex army (5 years infantry) and I left to join the Met police as it was the career that I always wanted. I'm now 2 years into being a train driver and if I had my time again there's only one career out of the three that I would have chosen.

The only choice is become a Train Driver.
 

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We currently have 18 ex police officers in training out of 24 trainees and apparently hundreds more applications. I don't know anything about working for the police but I can bet there are not hundreds of train drivers queuing up to be police officers as no one else ever leaves! Just an observation!!
 

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I'm also looking to jump ship aswell from the MET, although I loved it at the beginning, but it's not what the tv portraits it to be anymore, dealing with the public face to face, it's very challenging at times, same shoplifter, some drunken, young youths who clearly don't give a crap who you are, petty crimes, however after a few years in and if you've got the drive to make it, then there is a lot of career development, then the awful shift pattern if you get shafted onto 7on of 3off enjoy that! And sods law when you get put onto aid special events on the other side of London, you've got no chance of getting out that or face a disciplinary! Your leave can be cancelled at times, getting warned for court for a statement you did 8months ago, money sounds great, but a big chunk goes into your pension.
There is a lot of pros and cons to the job is what you make of it! The police get scrutinised for every little thing, and people jump to conclusions when incidents occurs and the public always like a good story, if you get yourself into a tricky situation and someone videos it's straight onto Facebook or the media, be prepared to be spat at, assaulted and verbally abused at aswell, all part of the job!

Also pal of your looking to getting into the firearms side of policing and you do have to use the weapon, all I say is good luck because of past events I know officers who are on suspensions over a year now, because your never fully backed by the job! It's all about maintaining public image now!
At the end of the day it's ultimately your decision, if I I'm your predicament I'd go for the train driver job:

a) it's a skill that once you've qualified you can move to other places to suit your needs
B) your working on your own and not some incompetent **** of an officer that's hasn't got the know how or balls to deal with a situation
C) the salary alone 55k says it all!

All the best

Greetings all,

I guess this is a good problem to have in this day and age,

I find myself in the situation that I have to choose between 2 jobs both selection processes have been long and I did not believe I would get both jobs and I would have been happy with either but I got both one is to start next month and the other in a couple of months.

One is police officer for the London MET and the other is trainee train driver for Crossrail.

What I'm worried about being in my early 30's is that this is probably my final career change so whatever job I get I plan to do it for the rest of my life, everyone is considering me crazy that I'm not jumping on the Crossrail job without even thinking about it

My main concerns are that I will find myself in 10 years or so without a job because trains will become automated and will not need drivers anymore and I don't see where I could go at 40 jobless and with only train driving experience at least if it happens with the police there's plenty of options transferring to another force/country there's good well paid security jobs for ex-police officers...

If it would be only about money I would chose the train driver job and never look back, but with train driving you'll be stuck at 55k and that's that as in the police if lucky and play your cards right there's opportunity for promotion and to go beyond that...

Any input advice is highly appreciated

I am not asking anyone to make a decision for me just thought hearing from other people will help me in making my decision

Thanks to all for taking the time to read this!
 
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