Inside Transpennine Express (Channel 5 Documentary)

[Energy]

I noticed that, they were suggesting that the 185s are ancient knackered old trains, when in reality in rail terms they are practically brand new

They had a refurbishment a couple years ago as well, they aren't even halfway through their life and are younger than all of Northern's apart from the civitys

 

[Ashley Hill]

It was OK but very comparable with similar programs. Lots of passengers complaining,lots of staff apologising and managers stressing safety. At least the guards are getting a look in on this show!

 

[SuperNova]

They had a refurbishment a couple years ago as well, they aren't even halfway through their life and are younger than all of Northern's apart from the civitys

It shapes the story of the programme - finishing with the new trains launch. Have to remember, these programmes are made for entertainment purposes. Apparently Over a million watched.

 

[Seehof]

Any branding that is “blanked out” is because they do not have the permission of that company to actually film their product - in this case Northern’s derailed train!

 

[py_megapixel]

I made a few observations about the first episode

• "...will have to make do with 15-year-old locos" in reference to a 185, which practically feel brand new now thanks to their refurbishment, not to mention being an MU not a loco..!
• They blurred out the logos on a derailed Northern 323 at Ardwick depot! That was a good laugh
• It's very similar to almost every similar programme of the same nature, and the generic name "The Railway 24/7" doesn't help. "Inside Transpennine Express" would have been much better

But other than that it was enjoyable to watch.

 

[SuperNova]

I made a few observations about the first episode

• "...will have to make do with 15-year-old locos" in reference to a 185, which practically feel brand new now thanks to their refurbishment, not to mention being an MU not a loco..!
• They blurred out the logos on a derailed Northern 323 at Ardwick depot! That was a good laugh
• It's very similar to almost every similar programme of the same nature, and the generic name "The Railway 24/7" doesn't help. "Inside Transpennine Express" would have been much better

But other than that it was enjoyable to watch.

I spoke with a colleague who said it had been viewed before for inaccuracies and they had gone back to the production company about the loco thing - seems they didn't amend.

 

[Andyh82]

I made a few observations about the first episode

• the generic name "The Railway 24/7" doesn't help. "Inside Transpennine Express" would have been much better

But other than that it was enjoyable to watch.

That’s what they will call it in 6 months when it turns up again as a new series!

 

[tetudo boy]

Episode 2 has been aired!

 

[Butts]

Are we going to get as far as Edinburgh or is it restricted to South of the Border ?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Next week (Channel 5, Wednesday 24th June 2020, 9.00 p.m.) "The Railway 24/7" looks at the launch of TransPennine Express's penalty fare scheme, and what happens when an abandoned rucksack causes a bomb alert.

Episode three of six.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Hmm... might see revenue officer mark making his TV debut then. Cameras were chasing him and his protégés for a few days.

 

[Fokx]

Hmm... might see revenue officer mark making his TV debut then. Cameras were chasing him and his protégés for a few days.

There was also planned to be an episode focusing largely on trainees, training managers and the L&D department but it was one of the two cut from the series due to constraints on filming after ‘lockdown’.

I believe the original idea would have seen the training process from first week, to minding, to being out on the network doing the job competently.

 

[Butts]

There was also planned to be an episode focusing largely on trainees, training managers and the L&D department but it was one of the two cut from the series due to constraints on filming after ‘lockdown’.

I believe the original idea would have seen the training process from first week, to minding, to being out on the network doing the job competently.

Interesting, any idea what the other cut episode would have featured - their wonderful 1st Class Complimentary Offering ?

 

[Fokx]

Interesting, any idea what the other cut episode would have featured - their wonderful 1st Class Complimentary Offering ?

Sadly I’m not sure, but In regards to first class catering, this is being looked at, particularly with the 802 kitchen galley. TPE were aiming to trail an on-demand catering service where you can order hot food and sandwiches using your phone and the host will deliver it at-seat (for both first and standard).

 

[Butts]

Sadly I’m not sure, but In regards to first class catering, this is being looked at, particularly with the 802 kitchen galley. TPE were aiming to trail an on-demand catering service where you can order hot food and sandwiches using your phone and the host will deliver it at-seat (for both first and standard).

Will it be free in First ?

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Sadly I’m not sure, but In regards to first class catering, this is being looked at, particularly with the 802 kitchen galley. TPE were aiming to trail an on-demand catering service where you can order hot food and sandwiches using your phone and the host will deliver it at-seat (for both first and standard).

Needs more than one member of catering staff then, can’t expect the train manager to do it when they are busy keeping on top of tickets and toilet doors that keep jamming...

 

[CW2]

One thing that does bug me in many of these railway documentary programmes is the use of incorrect / inappropriate sound effects dubbed on after the event. It seems no train can pass by at speed without sounding like a diesel powered HST. Only a small thing, but it does spoil an otherwise entertaining programme.

 

[midland1]

you mean like a GWR steam loco with a US style whistle dubbed on, I have seen that sort of thing .

 

[matthew123]

There was also planned to be an episode focusing largely on trainees, training managers and the L&D department but it was one of the two cut from the series due to constraints on filming after ‘lockdown’.

I believe the original idea would have seen the training process from first week, to minding, to being out on the network doing the job competently.

Although there isn’t an episode dedicated to trainees, there is still an episode with some form of trainee stuff in. Episode 5 will see (me) trainee driver go through training to passing out.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Was I imagining it or did I see a brief clip in tonight's episode of a TPE unit apparently wrong line working, but more likely the footage had been reversed and shown back to front?

 

[2L70]

Is there such a turnover of staff at TPE that a guard with 3 years experience becomes a coach?

 

[Fokx]

Is there such a turnover of staff at TPE that a guard with 3 years experience becomes a coach?

It’s not about turnover or years of experience it’s about having the right approach to the job role, and someone who acts exactly how the company wants from its future employees. You could have all the years experience in the world but if you don’t embody the right attitude or company values would TPE really want their new employees to follow in their example?

Mandy who is a conductor instructor came off very well in tonight’s episode in my option. It’s bad enough to be followed around by a camera crew but to be filmed calmly moving passengers away, going near a suspect package and removing it, to calling the IC and then having the customer air his grievance later on at Huddersfield and not once getting agitated, stressed or showing visible concern shows EXACTLY why she’s training others to follow in her example

 

[Fokx]

Was I imagining it or did I see a brief clip in tonight's episode of a TPE unit apparently wrong line working, but more likely the footage had been reversed and shown back to front?

Footage was reversed (red taillights were leading)

 

[2L70]

It’s not about turnover or years of experience it’s about having the right approach to the job role, and someone who acts exactly how the company wants from its future employees. You could have all the years experience in the world but if you don’t embody the right attitude or company values would TPE really want their new employees to follow in their example?

So it’s all about image then? I presume Mandy is a Piccadilly Guard, working stoppers.

Surprised Control let them have 2 mins to leave the bag at Marsden, normally the OBSMs would be on to the Traincrew for passing the parcel of delays...

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Footage was reversed (red taillights we’re leading)

Why would the production company do that?

 

[Fokx]

So it’s all about image then? I presume Mandy is a Piccadilly Guard, working stoppers.

It’s a mix of attitude and having the correct non-technical skill set I would say rather than image. The right sort of person in the right sort of role.

(In my previous management role in a retail environment, I worked alongside someone older who had been doing the job for several years, whereas I was fairly new to the role and in the end it was myself who was received a pay increase and promotion as the other manager had become complacent and didn’t display values the company wanted to bestow on their new employees during their probation.)

It’s either a two minute delay or a potential uncontrolled explosion, I know which one the IC is going to prefer...

 

[Andyh82]

I wonder how many times they are going to show us how they change the wheel sets. Two weeks running now.

 

[2L70]

It’s a mix of attitude and having the correct non-technical skill set I would say rather than image. The right sort of person in the right sort of role.

(In my previous management role in a retail environment, I worked alongside someone older who had been doing the job for several years, whereas I was fairly new to the role and in the end it was myself who was received a pay increase and promotion as the other manager had become complacent and didn’t display values the company wanted to bestow on their new employees during their probation.)

So you’re management grade, fair enough. We had another on here who tried to deny he was one, and got very angry when past situations were Detailed on this board...

 

[Fokx]

So you’re management grade, fair enough. We had another on here who tried to deny he was one, and got very angry when past situations were Detailed on this board...

I’m no longer in a management grade position as retail doesn’t have the best working conditions or pay nearly as well as the railway!

But anyway back to the topic in hand...

 

[2L70]

I’m no longer in a management grade position as retail doesn’t have the best working conditions or pay nearly as well as the railway!

But anyway back to the topic in hand...

You’re secure at least. Their local managers don’t see to have much of a lifespan, The Picc Guards Manager has been there nearly 13 years I believe? Unheard of. Most get moved on about once a year..