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Jeremy Corbyn & Tom Watson elected leader and deputy leader of the Labour Party
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Now the Corbynites are demanding that Sadiq Khan be "deselected" as Mayor of London, after he backed Owen Smith. Some are even calling for him to be replaced with George Galloway.
I've said it before, and i'll say it again, if Labour MPs are deselected by Momentum/SWP when Corbyn wins the leadership again, I will never vote Labour again. Mind you, at the way Labour's going in the polls, the general electorate will deselect them anyway...
The only people who can 'deselect' Sadiq Khan, assuming he doesn't resign and precipitate a new mayoral election, or is found guilty in a criminal court of an offence carrying a prison sentence, are the people of London. If Khan were not adopted as the Labour candidate in 2020 he could 'do a Livingstone' and stand as an independent - up against Galloway he'd get 80% of their combined vote imo and still be able to win.
I vowed never to vote Labour again while anyone associated with the late Robert Maxwell was still left on the Labour benches in either the Commons or Lords, and given the continued existence of a certain Labour life peer I'm sticking to my guns.
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Oh you didn't like "Captain Bob" winner of the Military Cross during the war, saviour of the Edinburgh Commonwealth Games in 1970 and early advocate of Pension reform and redistribution.
Lord Donoughue was Maxwells Solicitor is he the Peer you detest ?
asylumxl
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Perhaps not the best comparison to draw, seeing as their supposed suicidal tendencies were completely fabricated by filmmakers :P.
Perhaps that is a good comparison actually...
DarloRich
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Cap'n Bob was a Labour MP at one point!
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Jeremy Corbyn won't win the next general election, but Theresa May.
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I'll get me coat...
Butts
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You are a "bit late to the party" .....
Corbyn is navigating HMS Labour towards an iceberg
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At least he was a bit of a character unlike a lot of today's cardboard cutouts
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Cheshire East, to be precise.....and there are none more precise than I...
Also known as WielkaCheshire voivodeship... !
Busaholic
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Oh you didn't like "Captain Bob" winner of the Military Cross during the war, saviour of the Edinburgh Commonwealth Games in 1970 and early advocate of Pension reform and redistribution.
Lord Donoughue was Maxwells Solicitor is he the Peer you detest ?
Ah, Bernard. Too old to have been given that name as a tribute to Field Marshal Montgomery. Could be him I'm referring to - I believe he is still in existence. I last heard his voice a few weeks ago on a radio programme, oozing insincerity, as was his wont. I think he was bemoaning Labour's election prospects - almost made me join Momentum.
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Isn't that a Volvo dealership?
PHILIPE
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Article in Daily Mail (if you believe it) today that Unions ganging up to bring down the Conservative Government by series of co-ordinated strikes, including Junior Doctors, and to get behind Jeremy Corbyn. If they do, and succeed, there will have to be another General Election and then the Tories would win by a greater majority than they have at present. These people still wouldn't understand and would again spout that the Labour Party weren't left wing enough. Some people seem to have no respect for democracy.
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Ha. In fact that's where we got our latest car from!
Paul will tell you what it means.
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There are far too many sensible people in the Labour Party and the main unions, and by no means restricted to the right of the party, to allow that to happen imo. I was just listening to a news item on the next French presidential contest and Sarkozy announcing his candidacy in a new book, one of FIVE he is intent on publishing in the next year. You will look in vain for an equivalent book by Corbyn, because he seems to have no ideas beyond empty slogans. He can't help it, he's not that bright (but then neither is Owen Smith) but he's not going away yetawhile and, even when he does, not without a terrible fight.
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Great Cheshire Province.
Harbornite
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In Polish.
asylumxl
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That was implied. But perhaps I'm assuming that most people on here will be aware of his background, which may not be true.
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Fair enough, I was clarifying for those that aren't aware.
Xenophon PCDGS
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You are walking on the very thinnest of ice in making such a comment...
My father knew of another young man, similar in age to him, who perished in the Katyn massacre. There is a rather sombre monument to that event in Southern Cemetery, Manchester, in the Roman Catholic part.
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The term "voivodeship" is one that is usually historically associated with eastern European nations, such as Poland, Lithuania, Byelorussia, Hungary, Serbia and Romania. In Poland, the 1999 local government reforms brought a total of sixteen new voivodeships into being.
Historically again, a voivode was the name given to the governor of such an area and in medieval times, could also be a name given to a war leader who would be close to the ruler of the country.
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Harbornite
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Yes that's right. From now on, I will refer to Cheshire east as such a region.
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Cheshire East, to be precise.....and there are none more precise than I...
Your precision is such, sir, that one might almost mistake you for a Son of Sheffield.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Comrade Corbyn and his so-called Momentum allies must be enthralled by the result of the Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election, where the Labour Party slipped from second place at the last General Election to fourth place in this one.
Perhaps those former Labour voters who were not really "believers in the true course of Socialism" have now unsullied the spirit of pure Socialism and departed elsewhere...
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Hands up all those who now see Momentum gradually morphing into a separate Socialist party in their own right
Perhaps those former Labour voters who were not really "believers in the true course of Socialism" have now unsullied the spirit of pure Socialism and departed elsewhere...
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Hands up all those who now see Momentum gradually morphing into a separate Socialist party in their own right
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Things seem to be moving more to the right, so does it matter what Labour does? It's an irrelevance now.
Conservatives are now trying to trump UKIP by going on about hard Brexit, and it seems that this isn't a bad strategy given many Labour supporters are keen to get out of Europe.
Conservatives are now trying to trump UKIP by going on about hard Brexit, and it seems that this isn't a bad strategy given many Labour supporters are keen to get out of Europe.
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Comrade Corbyn and his so-called Momentum allies must be enthralled by the result of the Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election, where the Labour Party slipped from second place at the last General Election to fourth place in this one.
Perhaps those former Labour voters who were not really "believers in the true course of Socialism" have now unsullied the spirit of pure Socialism and departed elsewhere...
When Tim Farron said the Lib Dems can take inspiration from the Liberal Party in Canada who finished third in the 2011 federal elections (with the Conservatives first and the more left wing New Democratic second) but first in the 2015 elections (with the Conservatives second and the New Democratic third) it seemed like that would be nothing more than a dream for the Lib Dems who always finish behind the Conservatives and Labour in general elections. However, the way things are going that might not be as much of a dream as it seemed at the time. Even in pro-Brexit Sleaford and North Hykeham the Lib Dems increased their share of the vote from 5.7% to 11%, while Labour's share decreased from 17.3% to 10.2%. While UKIP are boasting about coming second their share of votes actually decreased and the reason they came second is because Labour lost a higher proportion of votes.
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Just looking at Lincolnshire Independent Marianne Overton's election leaflet ignoring the bit about supporting PCSOs her policies seem to be roughly aligned with those of a pre-Corbyn Labour candidate opposing a Conservative government. Her vote share went up by 3.3% from the previous election - probably some people who would have voted Labour between 1997 and 2015 voted for her.
http://www.lincolnshireindependents.org/2015 4 Marianne's MP Leaflet.pdf
DarloRich
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Another superb Labour performance heroically securing fourth place delivering a victorious reduction in our vote of only 7300 ish when those evil non Corbyn labour types shamefully secured second place last time around. That mandate in action once again. Luckily the challenge of the powerful Lincolnshire Independent party was fought off. At least the deposit was saved this time:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38258976
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38258976
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What's the "Bus Pass Elvis" Party all about ? - sounds interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Militant_Elvis_Party
Latest polls (yes, yes, yes - I know) have Labour around the 25% mark. If an election were held on that basis they'd pick up 8% of seats in House of Commons. The last time they had such a small proportion of seats was in 1918.
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Corbyn is saying it is the fault of MPs who challenged his leadership: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...lames-leadership-contest-for-low-poll-ratings
PHILIPE
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Corbyn openly stated this week that he supported the Southern Rail strikes. This type of language coming from a Party leader aspiring to be a future Prime Minister is a disgrace. He should be trying to persuade people to go back to work. Even if he is so passionate about his views on the matter, in his position, he should keep his thoughts to himself if he is unable to condemn the action.
Considering the labour party is partly bankrolled by the RMT and ASELF, do you really think it'd be a wise move for him to condemn the strikes?
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