Last of the droplights

[BRX]

So... ironically enough, the year we get rid of nearly all the remaining droplights turns out to be the same year that we find maximal fresh air ventilation might be quite desirable.

Anyway... where are we at now? Is it pretty much down to the EMR HSTs only - or are there still a few mk2s/3s on the go in Wales?

 

[hexagon789]

So... ironically enough, the year we get rid of nearly all the remaining droplights turns out to be the same year that we find maximal fresh air ventilation might be quite desirable.

Anyway... where are we at now? Is it pretty much down to the EMR HSTs only - or are there still a few mk2s/3s on the go in Wales?

The TfW Mk3s have been withdrawn

 

[Iskra]

So... ironically enough, the year we get rid of nearly all the remaining droplights turns out to be the same year that we find maximal fresh air ventilation might be quite desirable.

Anyway... where are we at now? Is it pretty much down to the EMR HSTs only - or are there still a few mk2s/3s on the go in Wales?

Night Riviera still has them I believe.

I probably used a droplight door for the last time on the EMR Skegness HST this weekend.

 

[Wolfie]

regardless of all this debate about how safe they are there is also one very simple reason TOC's dont want them anymore
new automatic doors give far greater control about dwell time so lead to a far more reliable service and as there is no need for a external handle on these there is no need for a droplight and a single static window pane is much simpler to maintain than a manual sliding window mechanism
droplights where on there way out by the mid 80's to late 90's and that not due to hatred of rail fans, its just economics and Efficiency

It also simplifies environmental control inside the carriage.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Night Riviera still has them I believe.

It does, but I wonder if they will move to a system of locking them and having doors controlled manually by sleeper stewards (or the guard in the seated coach), with a break-glass for emergency.

 

[BRX]

It does, but I wonder if they will move to a system of locking them and having doors controlled manually by sleeper stewards (or the guard in the seated coach), with a break-glass for emergency.

Let's hope that a sensible approach can be taken - because it's already a "special" type of train, it would seem reasonable to tell travellers when they board that this particular train has old style doors, give them instructions on how to use them, say the stewards can help them if necessary and include a warning that it's not safe to stick your head out.

 

[DB]

So far as I know,the following are all that remain now:
Night Riviera
EMR HSTs
Chiltern replacement slam-door mk3 set (ex-GA, not yet in service)

 

[CBlue]

So... ironically enough, the year we get rid of nearly all the remaining droplights turns out to be the same year that we find maximal fresh air ventilation might be quite desirable.

Or rather fortuitously, we've got rid of an outdated design that required someone to put their hands all over a window and handle to leave a train (and potentially contaminating several surfaces) rather than simply tapping a button with, say, their elbow.

 

[BRX]

Or rather fortuitously, we've got rid of an outdated design that required someone to put their hands all over a window and handle to leave a train (and potentially contaminating several surfaces) rather than simply tapping a button with, say, their elbow.

Fair point. Although we don't really seem to know how important transmission via surface contamination is.