Well, WYCA have gone through several stages of closure consultation. They seem pretty certain that it's just a formality.Whilst not disputing the madness of it all, is there any official statement which says Cottingley is to close?
Well, WYCA have gone through several stages of closure consultation. They seem pretty certain that it's just a formality.Whilst not disputing the madness of it all, is there any official statement which says Cottingley is to close?
WatershedWell, WYCA have gone through several stages of closure consultation. They seem pretty certain that it's just a formality.
Was it an Anytime Return at £18.50?An Anytime Day Return to New Street is £12.20, the same as from Foregate Street or Shrub Hill.
The only fare around £15 would be the Off-Peak Return costing £16.80, but this would not be shown before around 9am (when it becomes valid).
Worcestershire parkway needs the Edinburgh-Plymouth services to stop at it.What's the feeling about the recently-opened Worcestershire Parkway and Warrington West?
A possibly controversial suggestion, but perhaps pre Chiltern Evergreen, the Oxford to Bicester line. I think it was half a dozen largely empty trains each way. Reopened on the late 80s I think. Successful now it's a through route but certainly wasn't when just a branch.
My apologies. Must have misread the ticket machine!An Anytime Day Return to New Street is £12.20, the same as from Foregate Street or Shrub Hill.
The only fare around £15 would be the Off-Peak Return costing £16.80, but this would not be shown before around 9am (when it becomes valid).
I only mean for parkway stations, not any station where there happens to be a designated pay and display car park.As someone who walks to the station, or takes a bus in extremis (paying a fare), I certainly don't want my ticket price increased to make up for the car park revenue lost, a car park which I will never use.
That is fine for Parkway Stations surrounded by green fields (and will be for ever more) and will never have feeder bus services, but those such as Bristol and Coleshill are in, or on the edge of, urban areas (even if they weren't when built!).I only mean for parkway stations, not any station where there happens to be a designated pay and display car park.
Oxford Parkway has effectively replaced Islip. Islip station had to be rebuilt when the line was redoubled but I suspect Chiltern might well have preferred it’s closure.
And thank you both for reminding me I need to make my contribution to the latest/final consultation.Watershed
Thank you, I missed that
and some of them are only “Parkway” by designation (Didcot, Port Talbot for example). Ironic really that the name Bristol Parkway ( the first, I think) derived its name not from its car park, but the fact that it was at the end ( almost) of the M32 (“The Parkway” - a name which hasn’t really stuck - unlike “ the Portway”. - the A4 heading to Avonmouth)That is fine for Parkway Stations surrounded by green fields (and will be for ever more) and will never have feeder bus services, but those such as Bristol and Coleshill are in, or on the edge of, urban areas (even if they weren't when built!).
I only mean for parkway stations, not any station where there happens to be a designated pay and display car park.
Worcestershire parkway needs the Edinburgh-Plymouth services to stop at it.
XC have never shown an interest in that, and made it pretty clear even before it was built they weren't going to do it either. File under Kenilworth.Worcestershire parkway needs the Edinburgh-Plymouth services to stop at it.
If you look at the roads through Islip and the general feel of the place you can understand why they wanted that. It could never cope with parked cars as the roads aren't capable.Allegedly the reason for it not getting all trains stopping there was that the locals didn't want them, because it might result in their village roads being full of parked cars.
Same in London, where Angel Road, completely unused in a dismal urban wasteland, has been replaced spitting distance away on the other side of the main road viaduct by Meridian Water, similarly located.Cottingley really bugs me, as part of the rationale for closing it is that no-one uses it... so let's replace it with a new station 750m away which is more difficult to reach by the people who do use Cottingley. Ask this question again in five years and we can safely add White Rose Station to the list.
This now exceeds 2 million passengers a year, in 2019. Do you mean somewhere else?A few on light rail:
-Royal Albert (DLR) with very little development having occurred around the station
Resuming this service in any form would be a good start, even if it can only work between Bristol and Birmingham.The other one (Manchester-Bristol?) perhaps.
True.XC have never shown an interest in that, and made it pretty clear even before it was built they weren't going to do it either. File under Kenilworth.
If you look at the roads through Islip and the general feel of the place you can understand why they wanted that. It could never cope with parked cars as the roads aren't capable.
I always thought that line had a lot of potential as it is classic commuter territory. Also the buses from Flixton, Urmston etc can be very slow into Manchester. I suppose the Liverpool expresses get in the way of more frequent stopping services and nobody will want more trains across Castlefield junction.Humphrey Park would be well used if it had a decent service. As would the much older (1930s?) Chassen Road.
Thus making the station so expensive that it wasn't possible to fund in the first place?Kenilworth should’ve been built to accommodate 10 cars.
Would it really have cost that much extra? Surely it would’ve been better spent than having it as a station with no services.Thus making the station so expensive that it wasn't possible to fund in the first place?
I'm not sure where you get the idea that Kenilworth has no services from, given a train is leaving in around half an hour for Leamington Spa, and in 50 minutes for Nuneaton via Coventry. However, longer platforms would have cost more and been pretty fruitless as the CrossCountry services weren't ever going to be stopping anyway. You might not like the service the station has, and it's not amazing, but that's not the station's issue.Would it really have cost that much extra? Surely it would’ve been better spent than having it as a station with no services.
Would it really have cost that much extra? Surely it would’ve been better spent than having it as a station with no services.
Same in London, where Angel Road, completely unused in a dismal urban wasteland, has been replaced spitting distance away on the other side of the main road viaduct by Meridian Water, similarly located.
This now exceeds 2 million passengers a year, in 2019. Do you mean somewhere else?
CrossCountry don't serve Solihull or Bridgwater either, despite them being important secondary centres with fairly poor local provision.
(Partial Quote above; it refers to Kirkstall Forge.)It’s also a good example of what should be done - ensure the public transport options from/ to a new development site are available from day one ( which almost inevitably means a period of little use) rather than forcing the potential users to establish alternative travel patterns and then expect them to change them.
I commuted between Willington and Derby daily throughout the Summer 2018 Derby station blockade. Most mornings, I had the rail-replacement-bus (which became a minibus after the first week) to myself. (correction - there was a driver on board too...)I'll add Willington to the list - the failure to reopen the Ivanhoe line proper to passenger services has left it a big disadvantage service wise.
Haven’t they been on a replacement bud service for the last 18 months?I'm not sure where you get the idea that Kenilworth has no services from, given a train is leaving in around half an hour for Leamington Spa, and in 50 minutes for Nuneaton via Coventry. However, longer platforms would have cost more and been pretty fruitless as the CrossCountry services weren't ever going to be stopping anyway. You might not like the service the station has, and it's not amazing, but that's not the station's issue.
I always thought that line had a lot of potential as it is classic commuter territory. Also the buses from Flixton, Urmston etc can be very slow into Manchester. I suppose the Liverpool expresses get in the way of more frequent stopping services and nobody will want more trains across Castlefield junction.
Solihull was removed from XC after "Operation Princess" .....
Before the pandemic, the dedicated park and ride parking spaces were usually well filled on a weekday, and the number of spaces has been increased from about 24 to over 60.Is Rotherham Parkgate tram-train station getting much use?
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