A rush hour underground train packed with commuters has derailed in Liverpool city centre.
Around 90 passengers were thought to be on board the service as it travelled from Lime Street to Central station at around 6pm.
A spokeswoman for Merseyside Ambulance Service said they had received no reports of any injuries at this stage.
A search and rescue team are at the scene attempting to reach stranded commuters, a spokesman for Merseyside Fire Service said.
No bets taken. SorryCockfosters said:Bets on vandals?
Cockfosters said:Bets on vandals?
I can think of at least 1 exceptionCockfosters said:20mph minor derailments don't usually produce many deaths... though an excellent excuse for the tabloids to kick up.
TheSlash said:I can think of at least 1 exceptionCockfosters said:20mph minor derailments don't usually produce many deaths... though an excellent excuse for the tabloids to kick up.
Jim said:TheSlash said:I can think of at least 1 exceptionCockfosters said:20mph minor derailments don't usually produce many deaths... though an excellent excuse for the tabloids to kick up.
Like what?
Even the tube derailments like Chancery Lane did not kill anyone
AlexS said:EPB hit the buffers at Cannon Street at a few miles per hour (5ish?) and people actually died.
metrocammel said:Of course the exception of deep tubes being "safe" was Moorgate, although there, altough no one is sure exactly what happend the driver didnt apply the brakes and it it the end of the tunnel at (30?mph-or whatever the max speed of 38 stock is) and plenty of people, including the driver died there as the train crumpled up.
I dont think vandalism could be the cause of the crash at Liverpool, as it was "underground", but there was a 20 TSR, so perhaps driving too fast? There have been a few buffer smash style crashes in Liverpool, two Pendo's this time last year hit the buffers at low speed this time last year (within a week-or-so of each other) and back when 142's were new one hit the buffers at Lime Street, and actually lifted up into angle the air(!), I think one car was written off, but it was either very lightly loaded or an ecs so there was no casualties.
heart-of-wessex said:btw metrocammel i think 38TS can do 40-45 (max speed if the island line stock anyway unless it was modified)
does anyone actually know the number of the 507/508 involved?
heart-of-wessex said:does anyone actually know the number of the 507/508 involved?
tubechallenger said:It was a refurbished unit which was involved from what I can make out.
Very intelligent comments by the scousers there.Jim said:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4380048.stm