eastend43
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Hi
Could someone help me with the validity for the London Midland Super Off Peak return validity between Liverpool and London Euston? The restriction code is LF.
First of all, what the easiest way of finding these tickets online? I can't work out how to do it with NRE, so I usually go through virgintrains with the 'check for cheaper trains' option. Is there an easier way?
When I use that site it offers the weekday trains leaving Liverpool at xx:34 from 10:34 up to 14:34, changing at Stafford. The next one it offers is the 15:04 changing at Crewe which takes about 30 minutes longer. It does not offer the 15:34 from Liverpool changing at Stafford. Is that because the connection at Stafford leaves after 16:30 which is the start of the evening peak for that restriction? But the restriction code says -
I would have interpreted 'DEPART the origin station on the ticket' as referring to the time the journey starts in Liverpool. Am I reading this wrong and does the restriction actually restrict changing onto a train at Stafford in the peak? Even it it meant departing the origin station of the actual train, that would still be before 16:30 as it is the 15:45 departure from Crewe.
Coming back, the virgintrains site offers departures from Euston at xx:46 changing at Stafford starting with the 10:46 up to the 13:46. It doesn't offer the 14:46 (the connection from Stafford leaves at 17:10) and has the next one at 15:46, connecting at Crewe onto the 19:32. Again that seems to suggest to me that connecting in the peak is not allowed.
There is, of course, the easement allowing the 18:05 departure from Euston for passengers travelling north of Norton Bridge.
Am I reading the restrictions wrong or is there something up with the booking engine the virgintrains website uses? If I were to get the 15:34 from Liverpool or the 14:46 from London would it cause problems?
Thanks, and hope this all makes sense
Could someone help me with the validity for the London Midland Super Off Peak return validity between Liverpool and London Euston? The restriction code is LF.
First of all, what the easiest way of finding these tickets online? I can't work out how to do it with NRE, so I usually go through virgintrains with the 'check for cheaper trains' option. Is there an easier way?
When I use that site it offers the weekday trains leaving Liverpool at xx:34 from 10:34 up to 14:34, changing at Stafford. The next one it offers is the 15:04 changing at Crewe which takes about 30 minutes longer. It does not offer the 15:34 from Liverpool changing at Stafford. Is that because the connection at Stafford leaves after 16:30 which is the start of the evening peak for that restriction? But the restriction code says -
Not valid for travel on London Midland services timed to DEPART the origin station on the ticket between 1630 and 1930 in either direction...
I would have interpreted 'DEPART the origin station on the ticket' as referring to the time the journey starts in Liverpool. Am I reading this wrong and does the restriction actually restrict changing onto a train at Stafford in the peak? Even it it meant departing the origin station of the actual train, that would still be before 16:30 as it is the 15:45 departure from Crewe.
Coming back, the virgintrains site offers departures from Euston at xx:46 changing at Stafford starting with the 10:46 up to the 13:46. It doesn't offer the 14:46 (the connection from Stafford leaves at 17:10) and has the next one at 15:46, connecting at Crewe onto the 19:32. Again that seems to suggest to me that connecting in the peak is not allowed.
There is, of course, the easement allowing the 18:05 departure from Euston for passengers travelling north of Norton Bridge.
Am I reading the restrictions wrong or is there something up with the booking engine the virgintrains website uses? If I were to get the 15:34 from Liverpool or the 14:46 from London would it cause problems?
Thanks, and hope this all makes sense