LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

[DanNCL]

Belmont Yard - Thursday 24/3 - Present:
91116
91131
91118 - The Fusiliers - plate still attached
91125
91112
91115 - Blaydon Races - plate still attached

Regards
Marcus

91121 is also at Belmont Yard.

 

[ST156]

Got one x loco and 2x Mk4 coaches (with no barriers which makes it a bit unusual) running from Worksop to York NRM on Monday - via Maltby - due at the NRM around 1140.

Looks like this move took place today:-

09:23 Worksop to York NRM

Realtime Trains | 550G 0923 Worksop Up Receptions to York N.R.M. | 28/03/2022

Real-time train running information for 550G 0923 departure from Worksop Up Receptions to York N.R.M. on 28/03/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Can anyone confirm the coach numbers?

 

[theblackwatch]

Looks like this move took place today:-

09:23 Worksop to York NRM

Realtime Trains | 550G 0923 Worksop Up Receptions to York N.R.M. | 28/03/2022

Real-time train running information for 550G 0923 departure from Worksop Up Receptions to York N.R.M. on 28/03/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Can anyone confirm the coach numbers?

12230 & 12468.

 

[800001]

12230 & 12468.

One is on a low loader and is moving to York Roc tonight

 

[theblackwatch]

One is on a low loader and is moving to York Roc tonight

12468 - I saw it about an hour ago! The other should move tomorrow night.

 

[800001]

The first coach to move round to York Roc was 12468.
Will be placed onto track during day Tuesday, the next coach will move round Tuesday night.

 

[Spartacus]

Ah, that explains the removal of the street furniture nearby, I'd just assumed there'd been a crash!

 

[43301]

Are they going on the isolated piece of training track between the ROC and the footbridge over the avoiding line?

 

[DarloRich]

what is the score with these vehicles? are they going into the NRM or for training use at ROC?

 

[Mack91]

what is the score with these vehicles? are they going into the NRM or for training use at ROC?

The latter

 

[800001]

Are they going on the isolated piece of training track between the ROC and the footbridge over the avoiding line?

Yes.

what is the score with these vehicles? are they going into the NRM or for training use at ROC?

Training at Roc

 

[Mollman]

Are they going on the isolated piece of training track between the ROC and the footbridge over the avoiding line?

You can just about see the first one in situe on the RailCam York avoider Cam

 

[BR 45111]

91121 is also at Belmont Yard.

Yes sorry it is , first in the line at the London end . All untouched to the untrained eye .

Regards
Marcus

 

[hst43102]

Just passed York on the train and there was a Mk4 at the NRM sidings, seemingly just unloaded from a Allelys lorry. Any idea which coach this would be?

 

[skyhigh]

Just passed York on the train and there was a Mk4 at the NRM sidings, seemingly just unloaded from a Allelys lorry. Any idea which coach this would be?

Post 2,196 on this page:

The first coach to move round to York Roc was 12468.
Will be placed onto track during day Tuesday, the next coach will move round Tuesday night.

 

[hst43102]

Post 2,196 on this page:

The coach was at the NRM, not the ROC. Are the coaches being moved from the NRM to the ROC by road?

 

[43096]

The coach was at the NRM, not the ROC. Are the coaches being moved from the NRM to the ROC by road?

As noted above, read post 2196 above - there’s a photo!

 

[800001]

The coach was at the NRM, not the ROC. Are the coaches being moved from the NRM to the ROC by road?

Yes by road as my pics on post 2196 show.

 

[greyman42]

Yes.


Training at Roc

What sort of training at York ROC requires Mk4 coaches?

 

[High Dyke]

What sort of training at York ROC requires Mk4 coaches?

Seemingly incident management. No, I don't know either.

 

[43301]

Seemingly incident management. No, I don't know either.

Seem to recall that the training track there has a dummy level crossing - something to do with that?

Are the coaches intended to be there long-term?

 

[800001]

Seemingly incident management. No, I don't know either.

Evacuation training. So, this is only my thoughts, this would be BTP, MOMs, other network rail staff etc

 

[greyman42]

Evacuation training. So, this is only my thoughts, this would be BTP, MOMs, other network rail staff etc

So not the staff who work at York ROC?

 

[800001]

So not the staff who work at York ROC?

I have no idea, as I said in post, only my thoughts.

 

[jamieP]

So not the staff who work at York ROC?

Well to be fair the some MOMs will be based there as well as other NR staff. Plus will be used as a training area for other MOMs and NR staff based on the LNE route and others.

 

[fgwrich]

Some photos have appeared on Twitter of some Mk4s in Wabtec painted into IC Swallow style livery with dark grey doors.

(Photo credits to Steve Froggatt who’s original photos have been used on twitter!)

https://twitter.com/TrainsHb/status/1509478340687761419/photo/1

 

[FOH]

Some photos have appeared on Twitter of some Mk4s in Wabtec painted into IC Swallow with dark grey doors.

https://twitter.com/TrainsHb/status/1509478340687761419/photo/1

Missing the metal strips around the windows. I always thought these made the vehicle look classy

 

[fgwrich]

Missing the metal strips around the windows. I always thought these made the vehicle look classy

Ah, yes, the unpainted aluminium window frames. Like the HST Mk3s, they appear to have been painted over as well (GNER era perhaps?). I also have my doubts about the lower colour used as they appear to have made the mistake of going all white when it should be off white.

90023 in Happier Times

A very rare (in those days) sighting of a WCML Class 90 on the ECML stomping ground of the Class 91s. 90023 departs York with a Mk4 rake on the delayed 08:50 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh service on 16/07/1992. The service was running 20 minutes late due to "mechanical problems" suggesting...

www.flickr.com

 

[XCTurbostar]

Some photos have appeared on Twitter of some Mk4s in Wabtec painted into IC Swallow with dark grey doors.

https://twitter.com/TrainsHb/status/1509478340687761419/photo/1

Looks awesome! Cant wait to see if this is a one-off or an actual livery.

 

[physics34]

Ooo imagine if they are permanently bringing back IC swallow