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We were talking about the rumoured use of them on the “Staycation Express”, not the move to Eastleigh.
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Where did they get a replacement power unit from? Can't be too many of those around these days!
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For some fresh paint froth, the proposed livery for the Rail Charter Services "Staycation Express" HST has been unveiled:
Formation described as 3 x TF, 1 x TGF, 1 x TRFK, with an improved catering offering over last years' operation.
Formation described as 3 x TF, 1 x TGF, 1 x TRFK, with an improved catering offering over last years' operation.
Looks akin to the return of FGW 'Fag Packet' livery to me!Rail Charter Services’ popular tourist service over the Settle and Carlisle line will return this summer, but with a change in rolling stock to a 2+5 HST set and a different service pattern including a trip to Carlisle.
HST 2021 Staycation Express
Rail Charter Services’ popular tourist service over the Settle and Carlisle line will return this summer, but with a change in rolling stock to a 2+5 HST set and a different service pattern including a trip to Carlisle.www.keymodernrailways.com
The service, which operated for the first time in summer 2020, was intended to provide a day out over one of the UK’s most scenic routes through a difficult year, when many people were forced to forego their annual holidays; because of this the service rapidly became known as ‘The Staycation Express’. ‘This is a visitor attraction and not a railtour, so we are going to be less ambitious with the number of trains we run, which will also keep the costs of the operation under control, and run them at times when people really want to travel’ RCS Director Adrian Quine explained to Modern Railways.
Building on lessons from the first year of operation, a dedicated 2+5 HST belonging to Locomotive Services Ltd is being prepared for the project. As in 2020 all accommodation will be First Class, using ex-Great Western Railway Mk 3s with the highly quality interior retained but with new branding applied.
Refurbishment of the vehicles is being carried out by Arlington Fleet Services at Eastleigh and the final step will be the application of a new livery designed specifically for the Staycation Express train. Designs are still being finalised, but the main bodysides will feature a metallic shaded ‘British Racing Green’, which is slightly lighter than the GWR green previously applied to the coaches, with metallic silver bands on the lower body running down to the skirts.
Two dedicated former East Midlands Railway power cars will receive the same livery, but it is understood no decision has yet been made on the livery for the fifth LSL Class 43, which will act as a standby for both the RCS HST and the Blue Pullman set.
The revised schedule, operating on Saturdays to Thursdays (with train servicing undertaken on Fridays), will comprise a morning departure from Appleby at around 09.30, returning from Skipton at around 11.15 and running through to Carlisle. The southbound trip will depart from Carlisle at around 15.00, returning north from Skipton to Appleby at around 17.00. Exact timings are still being agreed with Network Rail.
Fares will be broadly the same as those for 2020, with a small addition to cover the section between Appleby and Carlisle. Three levels of fare will be available once again, with ‘dynamic pricing’ employed to ensure lower fares are available on less busy trains, and savings will be available for passengers prepared to book early for their journeys. RCS is also working with Northern with the aim of creating special add-on fares allowing travel to and from the Staycation Express.
Operating dates are expected to be similar to 2020, with services likely to start in week commencing 19 July and running through to around 11 or 12 September.
More details about Rail Charter Services’ plans for the 2021 operation will be revealed in the April 2021 issue of Modern Railways.
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I’m prepared to change my mind when it emerges, but it looks absolutely hideous. Fag pack is a good comparison, because that was hideous as well.
sprinterguy
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Yes I was never a fan of 'Fag Packet' livery at the time, though my view on it has softened when compared with the liveries that FGW subsequently slapped on the mark 3s.
It's not always easy to tell from a basic render but this new scheme lacks any sort of impact in my opinion. As many have noted on the original Twitter thread, it should blend in well with the S&C scenery!
I have to agree there. I'm not sure why they are opting for a new livery when a heritage one could draw much more business and publicity.
Speed43125
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Exactly, just slap some intercity 125 on there and be done with it
Quite amazing really, after some head scratching they were tipped off about 2 spare power units in Scotland!
They bought both.
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In many ways it’s better that they don’t use a heritage livery. It makes it clear that these are commercial assets rather than people thinking they are preserved.
47827
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Preferred the GW one to this new one, but the non fag packet version before that was much better and wish that had just stayed. I guess it's because the 90s Virgin red livery was so awful I used to prefer GW fag packet as it was an escape from the tacky Branson brand.
Rail Charter Services/LSL can get on with it as they please though with that livery as it's their call.
Steddenm
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From somebody I know who works close to LSL the livery was chosen as "not to confuse passengers with main operating services" however there was discussion of it going into InterCity Blue & Grey, InterCity Swallow, oddly Regional Railways and a newer version of the Blue Pullman livery.
But it does look reminiscent of FGW's fag packet!
But it does look reminiscent of FGW's fag packet!
Speed43125
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That'd be something on an HST!
It's certainly better for a certain preservation group!
Wyrleybart
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Ah. So that is where they went. I had heard a pair of 16SVTs had been found at or near Dounreay.
40013 is now back at Crewe.
It went under its own power today with 40145 in tow.
Amazing how they turned this around so quickly, there's hope for LSL's 55016 yet!
Wyrleybart
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Really don't think that will happen. 40013 had a damaged crankshaft after it's engine rebuild, so needed a second engine rebuild, using either a complete power unit, or parts from one from the very north of Scotland. The EE power units in this family are well known to railway locomotive engineers. Napier deltic engines on the other hand are very specialist and require very fine tolerances, great skill and parts to rebuild / repair.
I expect D9016 to remain at Margate for a long long time as a static exhibit.
Later Blue Pullman livery would have been good given its similar to the prototype HST livery. Regional Railways err No.
221101 Voyager
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Does anyone know what is the current situation with 86101 & 87002?
Haven't heard anything about them for a long time and have been hoping to see them sometime, but they seem to be dead?
Last I heard, LSL had used some parts off of 87035 to bring 86101/87002 back to life.
Haven't heard anything about them for a long time and have been hoping to see them sometime, but they seem to be dead?
Last I heard, LSL had used some parts off of 87035 to bring 86101/87002 back to life.
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Does anyone know what is the current situation with 86101 & 87002?
Haven't heard anything about them for a long time and have been hoping to see them sometime, but they seem to be dead?
Last I heard, LSL had used some parts off of 87035 to bring 86101/87002 back to life.
87002 is alive and well on my model railway
90002 looked fantastic at Stockport last Friday.
But seriously I can't help you re. 86101 or 87002.
47827
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Does anyone know what is the current situation with 86101 & 87002?
Haven't heard anything about them for a long time and have been hoping to see them sometime, but they seem to be dead?
Last I heard, LSL had used some parts off of 87035 to bring 86101/87002 back to life.
Reported in other places that 3 out of the 4 electrics in their fleet are currently out of traffic awaiting maintenance jobs to completed (in some cases because the parts are yet to arrive). Only one of the 90s is in use presently.
221101 Voyager
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Thanks for that update.
I think their electric fleet has been out of service longer than it’s been in service!
Look forward to see 86101 as it’s the only one I’ve not seen yet! Fingers crossed it makes an appearance on one of the tours later this year.
47827
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Thanks for that update.
I think their electric fleet has been out of service longer than it’s been in service!
Look forward to see 86101 as it’s the only one I’ve not seen yet! Fingers crossed it makes an appearance on one of the tours later this year.
That's the trouble with any microfleets. In the case of 86s and 87s there are now greater problems on that front as both are now off the front line albeit 86s in use with Freightliner until last year/early this year.
Was involved via a past day job with 86101s first passenger working in preservation, although in essence not long after that it was only semi preserved as it begun over a decade worth of contract work.
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New home for the LNER special livery power cars...Not one, but two, Class 43 HST Powercars join The Onene Collection
We’re delighted to confirm that two Class 43 HST Powercars - 43006 and 43312 (43112) and their coaches have joined The One
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Is this an out of season April fools?
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Nope...
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fgwrich
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Sadly not! It’s as rotten as and needs an overhaul, but the slap up paint job instantly means it should be saved and preserved according to the wonderful world of Facebook...
spookywestie
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Buying rolling stock based on the paint-job rather than mechanical condition sounds about right.