Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[FlybeDash8Q400]

But no changes for 42 or 49 though? They both use Brighton Place as well....

It's because the 21 diversion requires a change to the timetable unlike the other two

 

[Darklord8899]

It's because the 21 diversion requires a change to the timetable unlike the other two

Ahh ok, yes, that makes sense then.
Thank you!

 

[route101]

Was looking at an old video and wondered when the following Lothian bus types were withdrawn.

Leyland Olympians from the early 80s ,y to c reg
E, J , M reg olympians
I believe the P reg ones went in 2009 and Ataleans in 2000

 

[KGGXXXY]

The E, J , M reg Olympians were still running when I moved to Edinburgh for University in 2004 they were gone by 2009 but don't know when exactly.

 

[alexf380]

It was a gradual withdrawl of buses from about 2005, when some of the E reg buses were converted to Open top tour buses, until 2009 (I think) when the last of the Leyland buses were withdrawn that March, with the younger (P reg) Royale bodied ones going that August.

 

[Darklord8899]

Ahh the Atlantean.... memories of my childhood.... I think that was pretty much the only Decker Lothian ran back then late 70's/early 80's .... it is certainly all I can remember til the ECW bodied Olympians came along followed by the Alexander bodied Olympians.

Ps. A gold star to anyone that can guess the year I was born from that information

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Was looking at an old video and wondered when the following Lothian bus types were withdrawn.

Leyland Olympians from the early 80s ,y to c reg
E, J , M reg olympians
I believe the P reg ones went in 2009 and Ataleans in 2000

You are correct about the Atlanteans. They just made it to 2000. They had a final send off on service 4.

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_edin_t/0_edinburgh_transport_buses_terminus_04_asda_659_2004.htm

 

[ANWP Tom]

61 dropped an electric Wednesday. Didn't realise the circuit went that far down into stockbridge. Seemed well loaded from around 3:30

 

[route101]

It was a gradual withdrawl of buses from about 2005, when some of the E reg buses were converted to Open top tour buses, until 2009 (I think) when the last of the Leyland buses were withdrawn that March, with the younger (P reg) Royale bodied ones going that August.

I see , i seen a Youtube video from 2007 and there was J reg ones still running .

I found out that the C reg Olys made it to 2004 , in fact they went back into service .

Tridents are quite rare now . Is it just 04 plates left ?

Think the last 51 plate was over a year ago if not 2 .

As for the T , V , W and X tridents i cant recall when they were withdrawn

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

I see , i seen a Youtube video from 2007 and there was J reg ones still running .

I found out that the C reg Olys made it to 2004 , in fact they went back into service .

Tridents are quite rare now . Is it just 04 plates left ?

Think the last 51 plate was over a year ago if not 2 .

As for the T , V , W and X tridents i cant recall when they were withdrawn

The last 51 plates to go were the ECB examples that left around a year ago

The T/V's that became open toppers I'm sure did so in 2007-2008, the remaining V reg's along with W/X's were withdrawn in 2011 (replaced by 351-400, 951-960), 567 and 572 I think lasted until 2012

 

[herb21]

61 dropped an electric Wednesday. Didn't realise the circuit went that far down into stockbridge. Seemed well loaded from around 3:30

Saw it through Russell square yesterday and today.

 

[Darklord8899]

From the latest fleetlist I've seen (7th September)
These are the remaining Tridents:

Seafield:
650 XIL 1483 (previous SK52 OHL)
651 XIL 1484 (previous SK52 OHM)

Longstone:
662-665, 667,669, 673-681 (all 04 plates)

Marine:
683-700 (all 04 plates)

Longstone reserve:
628 (previous 666) SN04 AAU
629 (previous 657) SN53 AVU
630 (previous 658) SN53 AVV
631 (previous 659) SN53 AVW
632 (previous 660) SN53 AVX
633 (previous 661) SN53 AVZ
634 SK52 OHT
637 SK52 OGV
641 SK52 OGZ
647 SK52 OGH
648 SK52 OHH
649 SK52 OHD
655 SK52 OHS
659 (previous 704) SN04 AEY

Longstone withdrawn:
660 (previous 705) SN04 AEZ
661 (previous 706) SN04 AFA

Marine reserve:
668 SN04 AAX
682 SN04 ACZ

Central reserve:
645 SK52 0HD

 

[Trident638]

From the latest fleetlist I've seen (7th September)
These are the remaining Tridents:

Seafield:
650 XIL 1483 (previous SK52 OHL)
651 XIL 1484 (previous SK52 OHM)

Longstone:
662-665, 667,669, 673-681 (all 04 plates)

Marine:
683-700 (all 04 plates)

Longstone reserve:
628 (previous 666) SN04 AAU
629 (previous 657) SN53 AVU
630 (previous 658) SN53 AVV
631 (previous 659) SN53 AVW
632 (previous 660) SN53 AVX
633 (previous 661) SN53 AVZ
634 SK52 OHT
637 SK52 OGV
641 SK52 OGZ
647 SK52 OGH
648 SK52 OHH
649 SK52 OHD
655 SK52 OHS
659 (previous 704) SN04 AEY

Longstone withdrawn:
660 (previous 705) SN04 AEZ
661 (previous 706) SN04 AFA

Marine reserve:
668 SN04 AAX
682 SN04 ACZ

Central reserve:
645 SK52 0HD

Nope, remaining tridents are

LS - 664, 677, 680 & 684
MA - 695-700 (650/651 for 3BT)

 

[Darklord8899]

Nope, remaining tridents are

LS - 664, 677, 680 & 684
MA - 695-700 (650/651 for 3BT)

Thank you for the more up to date information

The info was taken from http://glasgowbuses.000webhostapp.com/Lothian.htm
Which was updated as I stated on 07/09/18 which I'm aware is a month old and may well have have been out of date by time the updates were done and posted, but it was the most update info I had to refer to.

 

[ANWP Tom]

44 seems the best place to catch the last Tridents. Had 2 on it in the past week. 664 and 697 if I remember rightly. Atleast one had Airport style luggage racks on another occasion on Tuesday unsure on number middayish from Brunstane to Abbeyhill

 

[Darklord8899]

44 seems the best place to catch the last Tridents. Had 2 on it in the past week. 664 and 697 if I remember rightly. Atleast one had Airport style luggage racks on another occasion on Tuesday unsure on number middayish from Brunstane to Abbeyhill

I've seen a few on the 25 as well, I was on one the other day

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Bit of an unrelated note but just out of curiosity, what is everyone’s favourite/least favourite route from Lothian/East Coast and Lothian Country. From any year or garage, could be more than one route if you like, just thought i’d Spark an interesting discussion here.

I’ll start
Favourites
Lothian:
4, 15, 21, 42, 45 (Marine)
10, 24, 29, 41 (Central)
20, 33, 36, 38, 44, 63, 200, 300, 400 (Longstone)

East Coast
106, 113, 124, X7

Lothian Country
43, X27/X28
(Still haven’t tried the other services yet lol)

Least Favourite
Lothian
19, 49 (Marine)
27, 37, 61, 67 (Central)
22, 30, 34 (Longstone)

East Coast
N/A

Lothian Country
N/A

What about you lot? what are your thoughts and opinions etc

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Interesting post. After looking into Lothian a bit more deeply over the past few weeks, I'll say...:

Favourites
Central - 37, 43, 47
Longstone - 20, 30, 34, 63, 200
Marine - 26

Least Favourites
Central - 3
Longstone - 63
Marine - 49

 

[Darklord8899]

Interesting post. After looking into Lothian a bit more deeply over the past few weeks, I'll say...:

Favourites
Central - 26, 37, 43, 47
Longstone - 20, 30, 34, 63
Marine - 200

Least Favourites
Central - 3
Longstone - 63
Marine - 49

The 3 and 200 are both operated out of Longstone

.....as for my choices, I'll need to have a think, haven't really given it much thought before

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Nice and easy for me

Faves

Longstone - 22, 23, 200, 275, X33, X44w
Central - 10, 41, 100
Marine - 4, 5, 45
ECB - 113, 124

125 was good when it had the tridents, now boring with B7's

Hated ones

Longstone - 30, 33
Central - 6, 24, 31, 61
Marine - 12, 21, 49, 69
ECB - 139

 

[tbtc]

Bit of an unrelated note but just out of curiosity, what is everyone’s favourite/least favourite route from Lothian/East Coast and Lothian Country. From any year or garage, could be more than one route if you like, just thought i’d Spark an interesting discussion here.

I’ll start

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Least Favourite
Lothian
19, 49 (Marine)

Least Favourites
Central - 3
Longstone - 63
Marine - 49

Hated ones

Longstone - 30, 33
Central - 6, 24, 31, 61
Marine - 12, 21, 49, 69

How come so much hate for the 49?

The dog-leg section at Lochend is a bit tedious but I'm surprised to see all three of the first selections highlighting it as a "hated" route.

It suffers from some traffic blackspots, but then the same could be said of many routes - is it the lack of faster sections or a comment on the type of passengers who use it?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

I personally dislike it cause it's a busy single deck route that takes 2 hours from end to end and goes through a lot of 'boring' places, it also goes the long way round from FK to RIE which is something that takes ages, you could walk it quicker

 

[Darklord8899]

Favorites:
Central: 43
Longstone: 36, 38
Marine: 5 (To be honest Marine doesn't have any really exciting routes)
Musselburgh: 124

Hated:
Central: 24
Longstone: 30, old 35/300
Marine: 49
Musselburgh: none

 

[sam120]

favourites,

central:1,24,47
marine:4,42,49-it’s my local bus
longstone:2,20,36,38
ecb:X5,106,140

least favourites,

central:11,37
marine:26
longstone:30
ecb:104

 

[delt1c]

Bit of an unrelated note but just out of curiosity, what is everyone’s favourite/least favourite route from Lothian/East Coast and Lothian Country. From any year or garage, could be more than one route if you like, just thought i’d Spark an interesting discussion here.

I’ll start
Favourites
Lothian:
4, 15, 21, 42, 45 (Marine)
10, 24, 29, 41 (Central)
20, 33, 36, 38, 44, 63, 200, 300, 400 (Longstone)

East Coast
106, 113, 124, X7

Lothian Country
43, X27/X28
(Still haven’t tried the other services yet lol)

Least Favourite
Lothian
19, 49 (Marine)
27, 37, 61, 67 (Central)
22, 30, 34 (Longstone)

East Coast
N/A

Lothian Country
N/A

What about you lot? what are your thoughts and opinions etc

For me as an ex pat has to be the 15, loved that journey commuting from Roslyn to West End and back

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

I don't "hate" any route persay however I do get fustrated with long winded routes so I tend to take the quickest route. Also, quietest. If quiet is a little longer than shorter, I take quiet.

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Interesting post. After looking into Lothian a bit more deeply over the past few weeks, I'll say...:

Favourites
Central - 26, 37, 43, 47
Longstone - 20, 30, 34, 63
Marine - 200

Least Favourites
Central - 3
Longstone - 63
Marine - 49

The 26 is the main Marine service.

 

[ANWP Tom]

Favorites
Longstone (used to be the 35/300 easy direct link to work at the gyle from easter road and also to the carstairs line at slateford) now 400 (link from work to wester hailes for after work shots.
All 3 (I think) 44: Nice nature reserve at one end and can get to most rail routes aswell
Marine: 19, 26

ECB I either like or have never used (106) but 124/X24 and X7 are regular use and X7 especially is a great route.

A mix of both
Longstone: 30 (painfully long winded way to Musselburgh but handy when combined with a 44/26 for getting ahead of recessed trains at millerhill)
12 could be better (extended to Kings Road atleast or rerouted via easter rd to provide more gyle links)

On a similar note I much preferred it when the bulk of stuff went via waterloo place during the closure, Leith st is a massive bottleneck. 26/19/44 served London road well enough in my view. Thought or either 4/5 and 1 or 34 being rerouted that way permanently being a good idea?

Hate
21: its a painful choice for getting home


Doors open day video

 

[route101]

Hardly seen any Tridents of late . Must be hard to catch a ride on one , Meanwhile in Glasgow all i have to do is walk 5 minutes and i have one every 30 mins

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Hardly seen any Tridents of late . Must be hard to catch a ride on one , Meanwhile in Glasgow all i have to do is walk 5 minutes and i have one every 30 mins

Very rare indeed now. Usually a couple running on the 21,25 and 44 Monday to Friday. Also can be found on the express evening services occasionally.