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Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion
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OmniCity999
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The idea was that the 26 was due new buses this year and those that were currently on it (apologies for the oxymoron) would be unbranded.
computerSaysNo
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That's the point!
Ahh okay.
Hopefully any new buses would be dual door XLBs, as these seem more suitable than single door B5s for routes like the 26 which are busy even off-peak (on the Seaton Sands services anyway, I've not used the Tranent services so I don't know what the loadings are like on them).
90019
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Fewer vans required for driver changes.
Busman84
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With the 22 and 23 to move garage what buses will be on them?
IIRC last time they cascaded the branded buses being replaced on the 26 to the 31 which also passes the zoo and took their time repainting them as it didn't matter.
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OmniCity999
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Well, yes. Marine currently has no active vehicles allocated to it.
Auld reekie
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I thought the 44 was fully covered by Longstone just recently.
Yes you're right, I'd forgotten. It's hard to keep track of all these changes.
ScotRail158725
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Fair point, will vehicles go back to their original depots or is it permanent allocations now?
Auld reekie
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That makes sense.
OmniCity999
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Its all going to be a bit messy for the time being
Just passed 814 and another unidentified B7TL in convoy on the M6, obviously being delivered fresh from repaint in a very smart green/dark green livery with cream relief. Not sure what operator they were for but definitely not Green Bus' livery.
Also, anyone know if there's a date for the new buses to start going into service?
Also, anyone know if there's a date for the new buses to start going into service?
OmniCity999
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Not sure, although one has been out on late evening trials.
RomeoCharlie71
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Surprised floodlights and tents haven't been put up outside the depot yet!
Presumably in the camouflage wrap car manufacturers use when testing new vehicle types to mask their design?
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Presumably with the PVR increase from the 13th and recent vehicle sales it must be getting tight for vehicle allocations.
I don’t think they will be far off being ready for service
I don’t think they will be far off being ready for service
ScotRail158725
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Seaford & District?
Jordan Adam
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Seaford & District?
If it is it won't last long, Seaford seem to always buy and then instantly sell vehicles!
OmniCity999
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its almost as if the company are selling loads of doubles so that when the new singles come they can run double deck routes with loads of singles so as to keep staff in work...
Wouldnt surprise me - new management are... interesting.
There does seem to be a disparity in what's leaving to what's known to be coming in. So something has to give?
Singles on double routes, PVR or route gouging. Or shutting another subsidiary (however recent repaints / transfers seem to all but rule the latter out)
Jordan Adam
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I could be wrong but the move of one of the 7900H's to Livingston would suggest that they're considering converting the X27 and X28 to single deck operation, i'd assume they've just moved one of them now for trial purposes ahead of the new singles entering service on the 30. This would allow some Geminis to move back in to the main Lothian fleet. Then again Gemini 443 has allegedly just been put in to LC colours.
The 275/276/280/281 could be converted back to single deck operation as there's really not any demand for deckers and it does seem a waste of resources. I understand that the 275 has deckers due to clearance issues in Wester Inch but it can't be that much of a problem given B7RLEs have done the route a number of times before.
It'll be interesting to see how things change going forward especially with the new management in place, and if any routes get converted to single deck operation in the city. Whenever i've been in Edinburgh i have found that the use of deckers on certain routes seemed unnecessary and that a single decker would manage fine.
The 275/276/280/281 could be converted back to single deck operation as there's really not any demand for deckers and it does seem a waste of resources. I understand that the 275 has deckers due to clearance issues in Wester Inch but it can't be that much of a problem given B7RLEs have done the route a number of times before.
It'll be interesting to see how things change going forward especially with the new management in place, and if any routes get converted to single deck operation in the city. Whenever i've been in Edinburgh i have found that the use of deckers on certain routes seemed unnecessary and that a single decker would manage fine.
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that one has some voith on it
Surprised floodlights and tents haven't been put up outside the depot yet!
Do we know what type of bus this is?
OmniCity999
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All the native B9's have voith on them...
their all also built and maintained exactly the same, so perform exactly the same.
I'm sworn to secrecy unfortunately.
Jordan Adam
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That's not always true though, especially as vehicles age. You get some where the gearbox is louder, others that are slower pulling off etc.
I could have sworn I passed 443 being towed when I passed Saughton Park tonight, might have caught the wrong number. Was still in Lothian City colours.
Seaford & District?
They were in Xelabus livery, knew I recognised the it but couldn't quite figure it out - only had a fleeting glance as I was driving north back home at the time.
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