Lumo - Apprentice Customer Train Driver - Euston/Preston/Sterling (17/03/25)

[Some guy]

This sorts out the debate of the crewe or Preston depot then!

It makes way more sense it being Preston it’s the closest to half way

 

[saracen]

This is a myth that has been debunked on so many occasions on this forum now that I'm stunned it is still doing the rounds

Finally, someone said it.

 

[MH117]

Does the error checking test come after the situational judgement one? Just wondering if you have to do both initially, or the error checking comes after if you pass the situational one

 

[Chippychips]

Does the error checking test come after the situational judgement one? Just wondering if you have to do both initially, or the error checking comes after if you pass the situational one

From what I've heard, it comes immediately after SJT (if you've passed), and then after the error checking comes an invite to a video interview, (if you passed).

 

[FlyinScotsman.]

Does this mean they won't accept PDF format then?

 

[craigybagel]

It makes way more sense it being Preston it’s the closest to half way

Halfway isn't necessarily the most sensible place to put the depot. Look at LNER at Newcastle: in an 8:45 average day, they can do 1 round trip to London or 2 round trips to Edinburgh, and be very productive for most of their shift. If the depot was at the half way point (nearer to York), they'd only have enough time to do one round trip to either of those cities, but the amount of productive work driving in the same amount of time would be less.

In the same way, a depot at Carlisle or Crewe might be more efficient on paper than one at Preston, but I'm sure LUMO have done their sums and know what will work best with their timetable and where they're planning on stabling their fleet.

Either way, at least they won't need to pay for lodging turns. Plus I wonder if there's any room for the Stirling depot to work LUMO's existing Edinburgh - Kings Cross services as far as Newcastle, or on their proposed extension to Glasgow? It might be more efficient than their current arrangements using Newcastle based crews for all services.

 

[HeritageSussex]

Does this mean they won't accept PDF format then?View attachment 176666

I expect they want to be able to edit the CV to remove any personal details so they can be reviewed anonymously.

 

[DNCharingX]

once again the job alerts being absolutely useless

just a heads up to avoid disappointment if you don't have a mic/webcam: there is a one-way video interview after error checking.

 

[nolypops83]

Job closed. Had just finished formatting my cv and cover letter on my lunch break.

 

[notadriver]

Halfway isn't necessarily the most sensible place to put the depot. Look at LNER at Newcastle: in an 8:45 average day, they can do 1 round trip to London or 2 round trips to Edinburgh, and be very productive for most of their shift. If the depot was at the half way point (nearer to York), they'd only have enough time to do one round trip to either of those cities, but the amount of productive work driving in the same amount of time would be less.

In the same way, a depot at Carlisle or Crewe might be more efficient on paper than one at Preston, but I'm sure LUMO have done their sums and know what will work best with their timetable and where they're planning on stabling their fleet.

Either way, at least they won't need to pay for lodging turns. Plus I wonder if there's any room for the Stirling depot to work LUMO's existing Edinburgh - Kings Cross services as far as Newcastle, or on their proposed extension to Glasgow? It might be more efficient than their current arrangements using Newcastle based crews for all services.

I reckon only Preston drivers would sign the whole route with London and Stirling only going as far as Preston.

 

[craigybagel]

I reckon only Preston drivers would sign the whole route with London and Stirling only going as far as Preston.

Agreed. But that might not make for the most productive diagrams. It's too far to do two trips in a day, but not that long a day for a single trip. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

[tiptoptaff]

Agreed. But that might not make for the most productive diagrams. It's too far to do two trips in a day, but not that long a day for a single trip. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

1.5x trips and lodge?

 

[The Middle]

1.5x trips and lodge?

Be incredibly difficult/impossible to do that due to continuous driving time regs

 

[HeritageSussex]

Job closed. Had just finished formatting my cv and cover letter on my lunch break.

It's back on the site again if you want to apply.

 

[nolypops83]

It's back on the site again if you want to apply.

Yeah, I got it in! Thanks.

 

[craigybagel]

1.5x trips and lodge?

Probably not worth the expense if they're opening depots at each termini as well

 

[Grvrdvicdr]

Don’t want this to turn into something for a new thread but How does working for open access compare to working for a TOC? I don’t think lumo is part of the RPS or you get the benefits such as priv and FIP?

 

[CreamNCookies]

Don’t want this to turn into something for a new thread but How does working for open access compare to working for a TOC? I don’t think lumo is part of the RPS or you get the benefits such as priv and FIP?

You do get priv rate travel with Lumo and boxes for other First group tocs.

From my past experience of working for Lumo on board before moving to a toc, it was fine, I have nothing bad to say about them.

The Lodge turns were fine and again from my own experience management were nothing but nice to me.

 

[NorthernTech]

Don’t want this to turn into something for a new thread but How does working for open access compare to working for a TOC? I don’t think lumo is part of the RPS or you get the benefits such as priv and FIP?

Part of advert says Defined Benefit pension, and another part says Defined Contribution! So not gonna be RPS but as to which else??? Id guess at DC but someone who works or has worked there may shine some light on that

 

[Chippychips]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know (or even an educated guess) how many they are looking for? For each of the three depots?

 

[jefferyjsg]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know (or even an educated guess) how many they are looking for? For each of the three depots?

it’s hard to tell but the last time they did something like this seems to be when they first launched back in 2021 where they bought on 16 drivers from their apprenticeship:

Lumo celebrates as 95% of workforce enter through apprenticeship scheme

www.lumo.co.uk

from all the new information on expansion i can imagine it’ll be a lot more this year!

 

[nolypops83]

OK, I've done those online tests (the error checking one was fun) and now I need to do an online interview. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes, but needs must. I feel like a right plum!

 

[six_lawboss]

From what I've heard, it comes immediately after SJT (if you've passed), and then after the error checking comes an invite to a video interview, (if you passed).

I guess I failed then I did two of the test but didn’t get a video interview

 

[RollingStock19]

Working while booked pass does that count towards your hours ? not sure what ASLEF will say about that.

If that was true ASLEF would have something to say about it, seeing as Lumo as had recognition for over a year.

This is a myth that has been debunked on so many occasions on this forum now that I'm stunned it is still doing the rounds

Because people don't listen? ... I can't believe it either! A driver at Lumo has NEVER been rostered to work on a train other than to drive it, if a driver is pass and you choose to help the onboard staff out, thats upto you. But you'd NEVER get rostered it.

 

[nolypops83]

I guess I failed then I did two of the test but didn’t get a video interview

Oh no! Mine came straight after the error checking test. I guess the must have a pass/fail mark and you get scored instantly.

 

[NoChug]

I guess I failed then I did two of the test but didn’t get a video interview

Sorry you didn't get the video interview invite. It comes through in sequence after the error checking test. Sounds like you nailed the multiple choice test but not the error check.

 

[TrainsJames]

Did anyone by chance manage to get the dates of the application steps that were published on the job advert? I forgot to make a note of them and since the advert is closed I cannot refer to it!

 

[Chippychips]

Did anyone by chance manage to get the dates of the application steps that were published on the job advert? I forgot to make a note of them and since the advert is closed I cannot refer to it!

Key dates:

If your application is successful there are some key dates that will follow that you would need to be available for, further details will be provided at each stage of the recruitment process:

• w/c 7th April 2025 psychometric testing will take place in Manchester.
• w/c 28th April first interview will take place via teams and w/c 5th May 2025 2nd interviews will take place via Teams.
• w/c 16th June – start date

The application/advert should be available on your 'first group login' page under "My applications", then click the (027671) link

 

[MH117]

interesting that they state 2 interview dates. Never known there be 2 internal interviews for a train driver role. Also no mention of a medical. .

 

[JH9]

DMI and MMI I assume?