fergusjbend
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These German style maps are great - if only we could adopt that numbering system as well. And while we are at it day tickets (Tageskarte) like they have in Germany that are valid on all transport operators in a particular city.
Very good work.
The only comment I'd make, absolutely not a criticism, is that I reckon this would work best if you stripped out London Overgound and only included Thameslink and Crossrail. These are (or will be) the only true cross london inter-regional services.
From what I understand of the S-Bhan it is along the lines of the Parisian RER system; a regional railway that runs through the city centre but also goes well beyond the greater Berlin area. Thameslink and Crossrail will be the London equivalent of this and a map only showing those would be very useful and potentially clearer.
London Overground is more akin to a local London tube/Paris Metro/Berlin U-Bhan service and as such may be better combined with the tube map, as has been done in some locations.
I do wonder why something along these lines hasn't been printed - some kind of TFL/Harry Beck copyright issue perhaps (Harry Beck being the guy who designed the London tube map as we know it today)?!
The initial map plan is just a variation on Frank Pick's underground map. Why do we always have to assume someone else gets it better when the idea for a simplified plan of lines originated here in the first place. As for S-bahn - why the hell do you want to adopt a foreign language name for a London rail network ? Overground, Underground, Thameslink, South-East Rail... anything in the vernacular will do thanks but S-bahns belong in their country of origin.
S-Bahn is a heavy rail Metro style train service usually operated by DB on DB metals, though there are exceptions. LO is definitely an S-Bahn; Merseyrail is also a textbook example, though most other UK suburban heavy rail operations would also pass for it like the Manchester suburban DMUs and the Brum Cross City. It doesn’t have to go to the city centre.
S-Bahn is a heavy rail Metro style train service usually operated by DB on DB metals, though there are exceptions. LO is definitely an S-Bahn; Merseyrail is also a textbook example, though most other UK suburban heavy rail operations would also pass for it like the Manchester suburban DMUs and the Brum Cross City. It doesn’t have to go to the city centre.
Although - looking at this - are you sure S-Bahn doesn’t = RER?!
Although - looking at this - are you sure S-Bahn doesn’t = RER?!
Love the use of Pilning for a station with occasional service
I think something like this would work really well, with the line numberings in the German style (and Tube lines getting numbers as well as names), to show what is now quite a complex network.
Whats this obsession with numbers on train lines when the current system seems to work perfectly well and generally has done since the railways were invented?
I get you are super obsessed with all things German because you certainly go on about it a lot but come on man - destination screens are simple and work - why change what already works? And comparing to buses is rather silly isnt it?
I get you are super obsessed with all things German because you certainly go on about it a lot but come on man - destination screens are simple and work - why change what already works?
And comparing to buses is rather silly isnt it?
The Paris Metro numbers it's lines and comes across as far more confusing than the underground.
I disagree; when I am in Paris I find the line number system much more convenient to use - it also makes the signage at the interchange stations much clearer.
I disagree; when I am in Paris I find the line number system much more convenient to use - it also makes the signage at the interchange stations much clearer.
It's gloriously British that suggesting a numbered system for specific routes is too European
Why do we always have to assume someone else gets it better when the idea for a simplified plan of lines originated here in the first place. As for S-bahn - why the hell do you want to adopt a foreign language name for a London rail network ? Overground, Underground, Thameslink, South-East Rail... anything in the vernacular will do thanks but S-bahns belong in their country of origin.
The phrase or concept of "the circle line" may be known worldwide, but perhaps not its route. Tourists for the most part aren't looking for "the circle line", they're after the destination on the front end of a train, and if they're okay with looking for the word "Cockfosters" they're going to be okay with looking for the number "C5".Thameslink had a route numbering system no one took any notice of it. The Circle Line, The Piccadilly Line are known throughout the world - Line 6 ? Line 3 ... could be anywhere. You can keep your numbers - why not put it to a poll to really find out what people prefer.