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kemal

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Morning

Any allocations for 507028 and 507029 today please?

Thank you
 

mainframe444

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I’m making an ad-hoc visit to Liverpool tomorrow, could you tell me if the 507s are still on all-day duties, or if they now only just work peak trains.

Also, if someone could let me know what the 507 workings are tomorrow, I’d be grateful. (I know that won’t be known until tomorrow!)

Many Thanks,

M
 

Ribbleman

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Does anyone happen to know if peps are on the new Brighton line still?
There were only ever 3 PEP units, scrapped many years ago. Having lived in the area since the 507s were introduced I can state categorically that they have never been referred to as PEPs. The clue is in what the term stood for - Prototype Electro Pneumatic. Just three sets were built and the knowledge gained from their operation influenced the design of Classes 314, 315, 507 and 508. Those units were derivations. That does not make them PEPs.
 
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childwallblues

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There were only ever 3 PEP units, scrapped many years ago. Having lived in the area since the 507s were introduced I can state categorically that they have never been referred to as PEPs. The clue is in what the term stood for - Prototype Electric Pneumatic. Just three sets were built and the knowledge gained from their operation influenced the design of Classes 314, 315, 507 and 508. Those units were derivations. That does not make them PEPs.
Well said Ribblenan.
 

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I’m making an ad-hoc visit to Liverpool tomorrow, could you tell me if the 507s are still on all-day duties, or if they now only just work peak trains.

Also, if someone could let me know what the 507 workings are tomorrow, I’d be grateful. (I know that won’t be known until tomorrow!)

Many Thanks,

M
They still have booked all-day work on the Southport line. Six diagrams (three paired formations) on this route, one of which misses two Hunts Cross return trips between the peaks. Workings are the 07.42, 07.57 and 08.12 Southport - Hunts Cross and 08.51, 09.06 and 09.21 Hunts X - Southport, repeating every 2 hours 30 minutes except the aforementioned missing workings.

Nothing booked on the Wirral Line now as such, but the last three days in a row have had one 507 on the West Kirby line (507003) and one on the Ellesmere Port (507007). Of these, 003 has finished in the sidings at West Kirby tonight, so possibly out tomorrow but not guaranteed. 007 is booked to finish at Rock Ferry so will very likely be on the Chester or Ellesmere Port line tomorrow.

Does anyone happen to know if peps are on the new Brighton line still?
No 507s have worked this route since last Wednesday, but in all probability there will still be the odd one on occasions.
 

prod_pep

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Just like that, there is a 507 on the New Brighton line today - 507010 - after a week without. It is in charge of the XX.38 departures from New Brighton (XX.05 from Liverpool Central) for anyone interested.
 

mainframe444

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Just like that, there is a 507 on the New Brighton line today - 507010 - after a week without. It is in charge of the XX.38 departures from New Brighton (XX.05 from Liverpool Central) for anyone interested.
Thanks for your information, most helpful.

Do you happen do know what diagram 507001 is working today?

M
 

prod_pep

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Thanks for your information, most helpful.

Do you happen do know what diagram 507001 is working today?

M
507001 (and 015) are on the Southport line working which misses two trips during the day. They should form either the 15.12 or 15.27 Southport - Hunts X service next (it varies).
 

mainframe444

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507001 (and 015) are on the Southport line working which misses two trips during the day. They should form either the 15.12 or 15.27 Southport - Hunts X service next (it varies).
The pair worked the 15:27 from Southport, I can vouch for this as I am on them now!

Thanks very much @prod_pep , your help today is appreciated.
 

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As of 0500, this is all that is allocated for today, just the 3 Southport diagrams, West Kirby and New Brighton 100% 777, there is one diagram on the Chester line that starts at New Brighton at 0632 ecs to Ellesmere Port which has no allocation yet, if anyone finds out whats on it, I'd be grateful as I'm heading to Liverpool straight from work for a last trip!

Update, it a 777!
 

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As of 0500, this is all that is allocated for today, just the 3 Southport diagrams, West Kirby and New Brighton 100% 777, there is one diagram on the Chester line that starts at New Brighton at 0632 ecs to Ellesmere Port which has no allocation yet, if anyone finds out whats on it, I'd be grateful as I'm heading to Liverpool straight from work for a last trip!

Update, it a 777!
Thanks for that, day planned around 769s and 507s with a very complex trip from Ramsbottom while car being serviced.
 

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Thanks for that, day planned around 769s and 507s with a very complex trip from Ramsbottom while car being serviced.
Your welcome! At least I’ll get 2 of the pairs, 1/2 hour in Southport for a quick pint aswell!

Currently on 507001 at Hunts Cross about to work 1121 to Southport with 507015
 
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Was onboard 016 + 017 an hour ago, brilliant motors coming off 016, rheostatic came on once for some reason inside the dingle tunnel but then cut off again at the end, before approaching Brunswick
 

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