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bussnapperwm

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Just a thread for non rolling stock/city centre extension news.

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Just read on another forum of Points Failure between St Pauls and Snow Hill is resulting in SLW between those two points.
 
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Do you know when the city centre extension is due to open? I can't seem to find a difinitive date online.
 

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There have been problems with Midland Metro on an almost daily basis recently. Friday was a particularly bad day for them. They've had signalling problems, ice on the wires and trams breaking down (including the new ones), and communication with passengers has been somewhere between poor and non-existant.

The twitter account MakeMetroBetter makes for interesting reading https://twitter.com/makemetrobetter, as does this article in the Express & Star from 5 January: http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...were-disrupted-on-13-of-last-18-working-days/
The Midland Metro was disrupted on 13 out of the last 18 working days as points failed, signals had problems and even some of the brand new trams broke down.
Bosses today apologised for a list of faults and excuses reveal passengers were left waiting, taking replacement bus services and even walking - all in the run up to and after an inflation busting hike in the fares that came into effect last week.

On 27 December one of the new trams broke down at The Royal and it wasn't shifted for three days.

The re-opening of the section between The Royal and Wolves St Georges has been pushed back to March at the earliest after a mine shaft was discovered.
 

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Metro have actually started replying to customers who tweet them about their service, and have been explaining why there is a new tram running around out of service (on a safety test), so that's good, but a tram broke down at The Hawthorns today and Metro didn't tweet about it.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...land-metro-chiefs-reject-overcrowding-claims/


Midland Metro chiefs reject 'overcrowding' claims
Midland Metro chiefs have denied overcrowding trams despite complaints from passengers.
A Twitter picture said to show an overcrowded tram at The Hawthorns
A Twitter picture said to show an overcrowded tram at The Hawthorns

One passenger tweeted this image after one of the new trams broke down at The Hawthorns stop at around 8.30am yesterday morning.
Pat Archer, a passenger on the service which broke down at The Hawthorns stop tweeted: "New tram stuck at Hawthorns. Rammed to point of unsafe. One emergency stop too. Get your act together please!"
In a separate post she described the service as 'abysmal' and claimed the doors would not close.
 
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METRO PROBLEM SOLVED, NEW LINES RECONSIDERED

The Midland Metro will return to the city centre in March, it was announced this week, as bosses re-visit proposals for new lines across the Black Country.

The laying of new Metro tram tracks over former mineworkings in Wolverhampton city centre has resumed after engineers devised a way of tackling the unstable and potentially dangerous site.

They were uncovered on Bilston Road between the junctions with Steelhouse Lane and Hospital Street in November as work progressed on replacing worn out tram tracks.

After intensive efforts to find a safe way of building over the mine, work is now underway with tram services scheduled to resume running into the St George’s terminus in March.

The old mineworkings were up to 40ft feet deep and filled with loose, uncompacted building rubble, and are thought to date as far back as the Industrial Revolution, when coal and iron ore was mined extensively across the Black Country.

Centro, the region’s public transport co-ordinator which is behind the £4.5m track improvement scheme, consulted with specialist engineering consultants to assess how best to deal with them.

It also sought advice from other light rail systems in the UK and around the world to see if they had ever dealt with a similar problem and to identify the best solution.

Midland Metro programme director Paul Griffiths said at some point down the years the workings had been filled in with old building rubble then covered over without being marked on any known map or documents.

“The problem was that rubble was not compacted down, it was thrown in loose and covered over, and over time loose rubble shifts and creates voids,” he said.

“Having installed a modern new crossover south of The Royal we came to remove the foundation from the previous crossover and that’s when we found the mine workings.”

The timetable had already been hit by the discovery of unmarked public utility pipes and the discovery that the original track slab was not as strong as designed and required additional work to ensure it does not deteriorate in the future.

Originally planned to open in November, The Royal opened the following month but an announcement on when services would resume to St George’s could not be made until the evaluation of the workings and design of a solution was completed.

Cllr Roger Horton, Centro lead member for rail, said: “The delays have been incredibly frustrating and we recognise the impact they have had on users of the Midland Metro for which we apologise.

“However these works have had to be done. An operational tram system has to have secure foundations, and now that this is being done the Midland Metro will provide Wolverhampton with a system it can be proud of for years to come.”

Meanwhile transport bosses have announce a review of plans to open new rail and metro lines across the Black Country.
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https://pennnow.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/metro-problem-solved-new-lines-reconsidered/
 

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I thought there was an extension to Birmingham New Street planned to open in 2015 - (the Birmingham New Street heavy rail station improvement pictures showed an artist's impression of trams outside the entrance to the rail station) - what's the status of this?
 

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I thought there was an extension to Birmingham New Street planned to open in 2015 - (the Birmingham New Street heavy rail station improvement pictures showed an artist's impression of trams outside the entrance to the rail station) - what's the status of this?

It's under construction - the Skyscrapercity forum has a regularly updated thread showing progress
 

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Hi all I see there is lots about Manchester metro but quite little regarding midland metro its quite exciting as soon will open the new extension , hope ok to say something about it, anyway from the info the new metro stn called st chads will open about two to three months time full details will be on nwm site and also understand fully open aprox beginning of December , once again details will be on nwm site skyscappercity has lots of info on there too , anyway hope all ok to post this and just like to say hi to all members.
 

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During October there will be a need for engineering work to connect the existing track to the new extension. Trams will terminate at St Paul's during this work.
 

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Midland Metro has never had it good with reliability. Hopefully the new trams will bed in and be less prone to fault and failures. One thing that I do dislike about the new trams is the seats, they are so uncomfortable!
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Yes it will be quite exciting once the new line is conected , and the new metro stops look very good too, and the new main one st chads look realy nice , going by the drawing about it, the new trams much better more space, but as with anything they need running in to work more or less ok, and quite stylish too.
 

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It just seems an incredibly long, drawn-out, process for such a small extension.
 

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As small as this extension this, it should prove to be vital as it could provide a backbone to a future network...just like the cross city tramline in Manchester does (which now needs a 2nd cross city route). This should be the beginning of a boom for Midland Metro and let's hope it spurs on the need for the future expansions that are planned.

The whole point of a tram system is that it takes you deep into the heart of city centres/town centres where railways can't necessary go. Now the Midland Metro is achieving this, hopefully it's the start of a bright future.
 
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Yes it might seem a long time but its well worth it , the two new extension s that are planned ones going to eastside erea including the coach stn, and the other to Hagley road , and also a small exstention to Wolverhampton rail stn, so I guess be like a couple of branch lines, yes might take a few yrs to build it, dont know if you seen the way its beeing built, quite a lot to it, I guess if say was nothing there before hand would get built much quicker, and as gord says it could be the backbone to a bigger network, one thing I would like to see if possible, is the cross city line included in the metro network, and maybe have the trams that Manchester has on it network there as that city's network was built around what was in places the old type rail system ie normal train track and platform hights, and also maybe the new chase line thats beeing built, I dont know if thats possible but I think would be realy great for the birmingham erea.
 

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As small as this extension this, it should prove to be vital as it could provide a backbone to a future network...just like the cross city tramline in Manchester does (which now needs a 2nd cross city route). This should be the beginning of a boom for Midland Metro and let's hope it spurs on the need for the future expansions that are planned.

The whole point of a tram system is that it takes you deep into the heart of city centres/town centres where railways can't necessary go. Now the Midland Metro is achieving this, hopefully it's the start of a bright future.


I agree with all of that, but it's still taking a heck of a long time !
 

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Yes maybe seem it but all the metro stops had to be made longer and the width changed as the new trams was bigger, plus a great deal of road reconstruction to take the new track, plus over ran at wolves end because of major engineering problems , so all in all at least on the home straight now.oh yes plus major road strengthen in city centre to take new track,
 

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Yes Nottingham city, yes nottingham has a good system for its size so well done to them , but one thing in birmingham is that yes its been a complete new or rebuild in the city centre plus a whole host of other works too and there is the other exstention s too so look forwards to those.
 

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In fact, central Birmingham is currently having/going to have some massive changes. Having a look at the various projects happening,and other ones in the pipeline, it really is quite exciting. Eastside for example really needs sorting and it's going to be a huge boost to that area when it's developed. Midland Metro will play a huge part in all of this. However, city centre expansion for the metro is great and very important, but beyond that...more lines out into other areas of the West Midlands conurbation will be vital too. Anyone trying to park at Merry Hill in Dudley on a wet Saturday will tell you that!

However, it's an exciting time and I hope Midland Metro really starts to bloom into the system it should always have been.
 
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In fact, central Birmingham is currently having/going to have some massive changes. Having a look at the various projects happening,and other ones in the pipeline, it really is quite exciting. Eastside for example really needs sorting and it's going to be a huge boost to that area when it's developed. Midland Metro will play a huge part in all of this. However, city centre expansion for the metro is great and very important, but beyond that...more lines out into other areas of the West Midlands conurbation will be vital too. Anyone trying to park at Merry Hill in Dudley on a wet Saturday will tell you that!

However, it's an exciting time and I hope Midland Metro really starts to bloom into the system it should always have been.

It might be 'an exciting time' if anyone saw tangible results. This short extension into the city centre has taken ages and I've not seen any final timescale for further extensions. When is it due to get to Merry Hill ?
 

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I find it exciting because it's taken 16 years to get even this one improvement for the metro. Yes, it should have happened a long time ago but it's happening now at last. Like we said, it may appear small but it's implications might be huge. It does appear to be taking a long time but when you consider all the moving around of services that have been needed. One example was moving the buses from Corporation Street to Moor Street...and to do that they needed to prepare Moor Street first. You can't just move stuff and cross your fingers that it'll be OK!

Anyway, however big or small, I really hope this is the catalyst for more development.
 
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I find it exciting because it's taken 16 years to get even this one improvement for the metro. Yes, it should have happened a long time ago but it's happening now at last. Like we said, it may appear small but it's implications might be huge. It does appear to be taking a long time but when you consider all the moving around of services that have been needed. One example was moving the buses from Corporation Street to Moor Street...and to do that they needed to prepare Moor Street first. You can't just move stuff and cross your fingers that it'll be OK!

Anyway, however big or small, I really hope this is the catalyst for more development.

So, no actual plans in place for extensions to Merry Hill ?
 

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Are National Rail tickets valid on the Midland Metro? For example, if I were to purchase a ticket from Leamington to The Hawthorns, would it be valid?

Cheers!
 
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