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robert7111a said:
Could have sworn I saw 319.453 at Herne Hill early this morning - in service, was I seeing things....!?
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In a nice way, yes. 319453 was collected yesterday and is reporting its location well off Thameslink.

It wasn't carried a passenger since it came off lease to GTR on Friday night.
 
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Does anybody have an up to date list of class 319s that Northern have? I've had 20 319/3s for haulage so far on Northern services. Thanks.
 
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20 is all that Northern currently have in passenger traffic.
 
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Rolling stock transformation goes as follows up to 2020:

142 - until 3rd Qtr 2019
144 - until 1st Qtr 2019
150 - until further notice (additional ex-GWR units to join 3rd Qtr 2017... apparently)
153 - until 3rd Qtr 2019
156 - until further notice (additional ex-ASR units to join 1st Qtr 2019
158 - until further notice (additional ex-ASR units to join 1st Qtr 2019)
170 - from 2nd Qtr 2018
195 - from 3rd Qtr 2018
319 - until further notice (additional ex-GTN units to join soon)
321/322 - until 3rd Qtr 2019
323 - until 1st Qtr 2019
331 - from 4th Qtr 2018
333 - until further notice
 
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Potato185 said:
150 - until further notice (additional ex-GWR units to join 3rd Qtr 2017... apparently)
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Latest news is they won't arrive in September 2017 as planned but will arrive in time for the May 2018 timetable change.

There's also doubt over whether the 3 x LM 150s will join with LM getting 153s from GWR as replacement and a suggestion that GWR could release more 150s and keep all their 153s for now.
 
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jcollins said:
Latest news is they won't arrive in September 2017 as planned but will arrive in time for the May 2018 timetable change.

There's also doubt over whether the 3 x LM 150s will join with LM getting 153s from GWR as replacement and a suggestion that GWR could release more 150s and keep all their 153s for now.
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Just what Northern don't need!
With the current slow progress of making trains TSI PRM ready for 2020, we now find out that a least 20 units are arriving without TSI PRM with ONLY 19 months left to fit it.
The fact that pacers are having money spent on them tells everyone they are going to withdrawn much much later than originally planned!
 
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1179_Clee2 said:
Just what Northern don't need!
With the current slow progress of making trains TSI PRM ready for 2020, we now find out that a least 20 units are arriving without TSI PRM with ONLY 19 months left to fit it.
The fact that pacers are having money spent on them tells everyone they are going to withdrawn much much later than originally planned!
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Slow progress of making trains - I was reading a Steam Magazine recently and in a January it was decided some more Western region Castle Class locos were required. So many were ordered, build started and entered service by the May.
 
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boby32 said:
8-car class 319 at Huyton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLojKDd0QE
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As the formation featured in the video has presumably come off the Wigan line, it must be forming the 2003 Wigan NW - Liverpool Lime Street, which is always an 8-car set (including Saturdays), with the front unit (only) available for passenger use. It is formed from the the stock of the 1900 ex Lime Street (front unit) and 1832 ex Lime Street (rear unit).

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2636292&postcount=4350

All the workings mentioned in the link continue as 8-car sets to/from Allerton depot. There are other 8-car workings to/from Allerton but the units split/combine at Lime Street.
 
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Bovverboy said:
As the formation featured in the video has presumably come off the Wigan line, it must be forming the 2003 Wigan NW - Liverpool Lime Street, which is always an 8-car set (including Saturdays), with the front unit (only) available for passenger use. It is formed from the the stock of the 1900 ex Lime Street (front unit) and 1832 ex Lime Street (rear unit).

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2636292&postcount=4350

All the workings mentioned in the link continue as 8-car sets to/from Allerton depot. There are other 8-car workings to/from Allerton but the units split/combine at Lime Street.
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The 1930 Preston to Liverpool 2028 service is also formed of 8 cars.
 
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boby32 said:
The 1930 Preston to Liverpool 2028 service is also formed of 8 cars.
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This service is previously formed from

1704 Liverpool South Parkway to Preston 1850 (1N81) and

1717 Liverpool Lime Street to Preston 1830 (1N80).
 
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Another northern 319 seems to have escaped. 319363 was sitting at Wolverton about to be attached to an 08 to get into the works a few minutes ago.
 
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