Northern Unit Refurbishments

[61653 HTAFC]

Wasn't it having some corrosion work done, around the doors I believe? It wouldn't surprise me if there were problems, these units have been worked pretty intensively since their introduction so have spent a lot of time running in all sorts of Yorkshire weather for close to 20 years now.

All been worked hard except for 009 which spent many years as the Neville Hill Christmas Tree! I'm surprised that one was revived in an unrefurbished state really, I'd have thought it made more sense to use that as the "proof of concept". Considering how long it spent in the open, often with doors removed and closed up with plywood, I'd have thought it would've been in a worse state than the others corrosion-wise too. Given that it was revived, it'll possibly be the last to go for refurbishment now.

 

[northernchris]

150120 has now had its internal refresh complete having entered service in FGW interior upon returning from receiving PRM mods.

158817 has had PRM mods done and is back in service

 

[AWK]

150120 has now had its internal refresh complete having entered service in FGW interior upon returning from receiving PRM mods.

Indeed, I had 150120 on 1202 SHF > LDS earlier today and it stank of fresh paint inside!

 

[AmateurRambler]

I haven't heard that 333 001 is in service yet. Supposed to be around 3 weeks work so all must not be well.
K

I have heard that upon arriving at Neville Hill, 333001 was used as a spares donor (!) to prop up the recently ailing 333 fleet which has been quite unreliable recently.

It is now being put back together but is subject to some minor contractual issues (a disagreement about what work has been done vs what was requested, I understsnd).

 

[superkev]

Path Kilmarnock to Neville hill this Sat. May be a 155 returning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85000/2019/02/09/advanced.
Return
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85025/2019/02/10/advanced

And Sun a 158 path to Crewe
K

 

[leo knight]

Path Kilmarnock to Neville hill this Sat. May be a 155 returning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85000/2019/02/09/advanced.
Also return Sunday http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85032/2019/02/10/advanced
And Sun a 158 path to Crewe
K

The 2nd RTT you indicated is a 158 from NL to Heaton poss a depot transfer. Not a path to Crewe

 

[superkev]

The 2nd RTT you indicated is a 158 from NL to Heaton poss a depot transfer. Not a path to Crewe

Sorry senile delay. Corrected.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85025/2019/02/10/advanced.
K

 

[boeing737229]

Path Kilmarnock to Neville hill this Sat. May be a 155 returning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85000/2019/02/09/advanced.
Return
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85025/2019/02/10/advanced

K

Odd how it says it's timed for 90mph and 158s are the only members of the Sprinter family that can do 90, but there aren't any 158s still at Kilmarnock surely? If this is 155343 returning, then 344 must be leaving imminently, inwhich case when I saw it at Wakey Kirkgate on Monday was the last time I ever saw it in the old livery

 

[trainmananthon]

333001 is due to go out on a test run tomorrow.

158849 also due back on Sunday I believe.

 

[leo knight]

333001 is due to go out on a test run tomorrow.

158849 also due back on Sunday I believe.

Any news on 158904 as it's been in the works

 

[leo knight]

RTT 1153 arriving at Heaton from Glasgow works maybe a refurbed 156 and a 1212 arrival from Allerton depot a class 158 today.

 

[leo knight]

1258 departs Heaton to Glasgow works and 1259 dep Heaton to Allerton. The latter being a 158.Today.

 

[anamyd]

Odd how it says it's timed for 90mph and 158s are the only members of the Sprinter family that can do 90, but there aren't any 158s still at Kilmarnock surely? If this is 155343 returning, then 344 must be leaving imminently, inwhich case when I saw it at Wakey Kirkgate on Monday was the last time I ever saw it in the old livery

isn't the 75mph top speed of the older Sprinters "conservative"...? i heard that depending on the unit condition, some of them will happily do more than that

 

[simon7929]

I heard 156451 was receiving USB ports/new seat cushions/flooring etc. Not sure who's doing the work though.

 

[trainmananthon]

Any news on 158904 as it's been in the works

You’ll be waiting a while for it to come back.

 

[Bungle965]

isn't the 75mph top speed of the older Sprinters "conservative"...? i heard that depending on the unit condition, some of them will happily do more than that

I think you’ll struggle to find a 153 that’ll do more than 75!
Many struggle to get above 50/60.
Sam

 

[AmateurRambler]

333013 currently remains at Holbeck Depot.

 

[northernchris]

170458 is now in service having being Northernised

 

[LOL The Irony]

What I don't get is why Northern are staggering the refurbs on all units except for the 170s.

 

[northernchris]

What I don't get is why Northern are staggering the refurbs on all units except for the 170s.

Perhaps down to unit availability? There's some slack in the 170 fleet at the moment whereas the sprinters are being hammered to deliver the timetable

 

[superkev]

Path Kilmarnock to Neville hill this Sat. May be a 155 returning.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85000/2019/02/09/advanced.
Return
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85025/2019/02/10/advanced

And Sun a 158 path to Crewe
K

Cancelled

 

[AMD]

What I don't get is why Northern are staggering the refurbs on all units except for the 170s.

Perhaps down to unit availability? There's some slack in the 170 fleet at the moment whereas the sprinters are being hammered to deliver the timetable

Yes, some slack in the daily requirement for 170s; also the 170s require far less work as they are coming south in pretty good shape, being reasonably modern units.

 

[SteveyBee131]

I think you’ll struggle to find a 153 that’ll do more than 75!
Many struggle to get above 50/60.
Sam

I've been on several that crept up to 80 single-handed. But that's not the intended subject of this thread so I'll be quiet now.

 

[jonesy3001]

Since WMT are refurbishing there 323s, are any of the northern 323s likely to be refurbished and have the PRM mods done before they leave the franchise or is it to late to do them?

 

[978wta]

Since WMT are refurbishing there 323s, are any of the northern 323s likely to be refurbished and have the PRM mods done before they leave the franchise or is it to late to do them?

Given that Northerns 323s should have gone off lease last December, I think it’s fair to say that no one actually knows for sure what the long term plan is for them.

 

[AMD]

Given that Northerns 323s should have gone off lease last December, I think it’s fair to say that no one actually knows for sure what the long term plan is for them.

You might want to start taking pictures of the 319s before they disappear.......

 

[superkev]

Paths this Sat again Kilmarnock to NL and return. Last week's cancelled.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P85000/2019/02/16/advanced
K

 

[prod_pep]

Since WMT are refurbishing there 323s, are any of the northern 323s likely to be refurbished and have the PRM mods done before they leave the franchise or is it to late to do them?

It was previously mentioned in this post that Northern's 323s will go for refurb in May/June 2019. I suppose time will tell.

 

[jonesy3001]

It was previously mentioned in this post that Northern's 323s will go for refurb in May/June 2019. I suppose time will tell.

Probably had the beer goggles on when i read the post, but it's good they are being refurbished in the spring.

 

[Andyh82]

I travelled on 158752 today. What era of refurbishment does this one have as it didn’t seem to be neither the old franchise’s standard nor anything I’d recognise as the current standard