Northern Unit Refurbishments

[Rhysdabeast]

5Q12 has dep Eastleigh Depot, whatever it is.

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156496

 

[Jamesrob637]

got a couple down at wolverton, think soon as they're all done bye bye 319s

Good. 323s are nippy and much more reliable. Only the lack of air-conditioning renders them unfit for beyond the 2020s otherwise the refurbished examples could easily see the 2030s and beyond. Maybe air-conditioning is planned further on into the decade.

 

[43096]

got a couple down at wolverton, think soon as they're all done bye bye 319s

It will need some of the West Mids 323s to transfer to Northern to kill off the 319s.

 

[jonesy3001]

It will need some of the West Mids 323s to transfer to Northern to kill off the 319s.

there is that as well, but northern are trying not to use all of them while this epidemic is going on.

 

[CJ]

Do we know if whether 156496 (which came back up from 522T 1450 Eastleigh Trsmd to Heaton T&R.S.M.D. yesterday) has new seats? Or do they retain the old Ashbourne seats?

 

[Adam0984]

Do we know if whether 156496 (which came back up from 522T 1450 Eastleigh Trsmd to Heaton T&R.S.M.D. yesterday) has new seats? Or do they retain the old Ashbourne seats?

New seats complete new interior

 

[LOL The Irony]

New seats complete new interior

What seats do they have?

 

[Adam0984]

Same as all the other refurbished 156s, I don't know what they call them

 

[LOL The Irony]

Same as all the other refurbished 156s, I don't know what they call them

Are they the FNW refurb seats?

 

[Liverpool 507]

What seats do they have?

They have the new Fainsa ‘Ironing Board‘ seats. All five ex ScotRail units will have these fitted.

 

[LOL The Irony]

They have the new Fainsa ‘Ironing Board‘ seats. All five ex ScotRail units will have these fitted.

Thanks. Not the best option but oh well, as long as they don't come west side.

 

[skyhigh]

Thanks. Not the best option but oh well, as long as they don't come west side.

156s are pretty much solely on the West side aren't they?

 

[Adam0984]

156s are pretty much solely on the West side aren't they?

And the North East

 

[NoMorePacers]

Thanks. Not the best option but oh well, as long as they don't come west side.

I've seen multiple Heaton-based 156s operating in the North West, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[Neptune]

Heaton units work Cumbrian Coast as well as North East services.

 

[superkev]

New seats complete new interior

Re 156s does a complete new interior include wifi and phone chargers.
Thanks k

 

[Adam0984]

Re 156s does a complete new interior include wifi and phone chargers.
Thanks k

No that'll be part 763 of the refurbishment process

 

[3973EXL]

Wolverton - Allerton 323 move caped on 27/06
STP now in for 04/07

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[158757]

Updated lists 30/06/20, corrections welcome. With 150150 going down to Crewe with 149 this week I expect it will be the next one to be refurbished. Still not sure which 156's have been through Holbeck other than those listed as with the new moquette and Richmond seats below.

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded First Great Western Blue
Unbranded Great Western Railway Green
158860 has thank you NHS livery

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
FGW – First Great Western
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls


150001 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats

150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150133 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 – Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150145 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150148 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

150120,123 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 has several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150215 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (in works, Holbeck)
156472 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

Refurbished 156 units with Richmond seats but old purple moquette seats (and 156468) retain floor carpet, this is replaced during work at Holbeck

158752 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats (in works, Holbeck)
158754 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158844 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
# 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 has cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

FCC - First Capital Connect
Units not in bold are now off lease
Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Derby RTC for Bogic Bolster crack repairs)
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

 

[158757]

there is that as well, but northern are trying not to use all of them while this epidemic is going on.

I've seen all the 319s in use during Covid, none are being warm stored or rotated AFAIK.

 

[jonesy3001]

I've seen all the 319s in use during Covid, none are being warm stored or rotated AFAIK.

Just what I've read on other sites and only see a couple on the Blackpool services on railcam, unsure if they're on the Crewe routes.

 

[158757]

I'm not sure on Crewe either but they're still out on Vic-Preston, Lime St-Wigan NW/Blackpool North and Chat Moss. At one point 3 of the 4 Chat Moss diagrams had gone to them but ATM it appears to be 2x331, 1x323, 1x319 (a 4 hour circuit currently curtailed at the Airport rather than continuing to Wilmslow/Crewe).

 

[175001]

Work has started on reupholstering the 3 car 158s

 

[Mollman]

Work has started on reupholstering the 3 car 158s

I thought they'd already been done on initial repaint / refresh / PRM but were going to get new seats and power sockets like the 2-car 158s?

 

[Adam0984]

I thought they'd already been done on initial repaint / refresh / PRM but were going to get new seats and power sockets like the 2-car 158s?

They were done first before the final design was approved so got a half hearted refurb some got new seat covers other didnt so they've gone back for the final interior design same as the 2 cars. Still no plugs or WiFi though

 

[superkev]

Work has started on reupholstering the 3 car 158s

Thanks. Where are the 3 car 158s being reupholstered.
Holbeck perhaps although im not sure its long enough for 3 cars.
K

 

[Adam0984]

Thanks. Where are the 3 carc158s being reupholstered.
Holbeck perhaps although im not sure its long enough for 3 cars.
K

Holbeck 158753 is there at the moment. Itll probably be done with 1 carriage out the end of the shed then moved forward when they do that carriage

 

[3973EXL]

Update for STP moves 04/07 so far

Realtime Trains - 563W 0944 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot

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Realtime Trains - 562W 0936 Crewe C.S. to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

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Realtime Trains - 577W 1425 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Crewe C.S.

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[superkev]

Update for STP moves 04/07 so far

Realtime Trains - 563W 0944 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot

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Realtime Trains - 562W 0936 Crewe C.S. to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

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Realtime Trains - 577W 1425 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Crewe C.S.

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Thanks. See if any run and unit numbers.
K

 

[Adam0984]

The Allerton should be 323235
Crewe to Neville Hill 158796