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Northern Unit Refurbishments

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Adam0984 said:
Yeah the 333s are getting a new PIS system and will get the charging eventually
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It will be interesting to see how they fit the PIS. This will, as far as I'm aware, be the first time in quite a while that a complete PIS replacement has taken place (as opposed to new fitment)

I assume it'll be TrainFX. Which probably means bad grammar, disconnected announcements, and (unless TrainFX is able to drive the original displays) flickering dot matrix screens.
 
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py_megapixel said:
It will be interesting to see how they fit the PIS. This will, as far as I'm aware, be the first time in quite a while that a complete PIS replacement has taken place (as opposed to new fitment)

I assume it'll be TrainFX. Which probably means bad grammar, disconnected announcements, and (unless TrainFX is able to drive the original displays) flickering dot matrix screens.
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From what I've heard it'll be more of a TPE-185 style system with new screens but the originals remaining. Be interesting to see how it works out though.

As far as I'm aware 323s will get the USB charging treatment too in the next refurb stage for them.
 
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py_megapixel said:
It will be interesting to see how they fit the PIS. This will, as far as I'm aware, be the first time in quite a while that a complete PIS replacement has taken place (as opposed to new fitment)

I assume it'll be TrainFX. Which probably means bad grammar, disconnected announcements, and (unless TrainFX is able to drive the original displays) flickering dot matrix screens.
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I don't know why but I hope that the current dot matrix screens stay
 
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Apparently 223 is coming back from Wolverton. Going for a run soon, so will catch that and the Crewe to NH moves whilst out.
 
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Adam0984 said:
I think the connect spec has been shelved at the moment so will just be the standard
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Thanks but what is Northerns standard for interior refurb. Seems to be so many variations.
158 859 may not be returning today from Crewe to connect spec with seat res and more screens etc but will it have wifi and charging ports I wonder.
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Adam0984 said:
Possibly 158845 going for C4 maintenance and some work by one of the contractors
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158 845 is a Perkins powered Heaton unit so I wonder what it was doing at NH who dont normally have 158s.
Re Newton heath hows what must be the worlds longest shed construction project going. Seems like it's been going years.
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superkev said:
Thanks but what is Northerns standard for interior refurb. Seems to be so many variations.
158 859 may not be returning today from Crewe to connect spec with seat res and more screens etc but will it have wifi and charging ports I wonder.
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The newly refurbished 158’s I’ve worked recently (789, 792, 794, 869 & 902) have just had new seats, carpet and internal repainting done.
 
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py_megapixel said:
Thanks for that. And all 158s have had TrainFX and new door controls I assume?
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All 158’s have TrainFX now. As for new door buttons they are definitely present on the internally refurbished units. I haven’t worked an unrefurbished unit for a while.
 
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Does anyone happen to know if the Turbostars will be getting TrainFX? The currently installed PIS is programmed for ScotRail and I doubt Northern want the liability of maintaining two different systems even if they were going to update it.
 
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py_megapixel said:
Does anyone happen to know if the Turbostars will be getting TrainFX? The currently installed PIS is programmed for ScotRail and I doubt Northern want the liability of maintaining two different systems even if they were going to update it.
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The 170’s screens have been updated to the Northern routes they work (they even scroll the stopping pattern on the external side screens) but they don’t have automatic audible announcements. I don’t think they have any plans to alter them to TrainFX from the original system currently in place.
 
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superkev said:
Thanks but what is Northerns standard for interior refurb. Seems to be so many variations.
158 859 may not be returning today from Crewe to connect spec with seat res and more screens etc but will it have wifi and charging ports I wonder.
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The standard interior is the non standard and differ slightly new seating, new flooring and internal repaint. The wifi and charging will be the next stage of refurb
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158 845 is a Perkins powered Heaton unit so I wonder what it was doing at NH who dont normally have 158s.
Re Newton heath hows what must be the worlds longest shed construction project going. Seems like it's been going years.
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845 has been stabled at NH for a fair few weeks awaiting space at Heaton. NH stable and light maintain 158s. And as for the shed its slowly getting there and might be ready for Christmas 2021
 
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