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3973EXL said:
6/6 STP 5Q12 Eastleigh - Heaton

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6/6 STP/VAR Neville Hill

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6/6 STP Newton Heath

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Crewe to Neville Hill running.
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CJ said:
Interesting. All are already in the new Northern livery / PRM'd. I would assume they are going back for new seat covers / last bit of amends left?
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Probably CET tank fitment although 150106 also looks to be logo'd up now so I suspect that has had internal work done. 140 still had the old seat covers although as far as I know none of the others that have been down to Crewe that have had internal work done previously have had theirs changed so I'd be surprised if it has.
 
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158757 said:
Probably CET tank fitment although 150106 also looks to be logo'd up now so I suspect that has had internal work done. 140 still had the old seat covers although as far as I know none of the others that have been down to Crewe that have had internal work done previously have had theirs changed so I'd be surprised if it has.
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150-106, 140 and 141are all Angel trains units so probably at Crewe for fitment of CET tanks. Didn't I read on here that all the Portabook ones were done with the PRM mods.
Not sure how many units still discharge sewage onto the track.
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Ryry said:
According to real-time Heaton movement was cancelled. Was watching York rail can and there was nothing passing through
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I meant if it ran lol which is obviously didnt and is still a couple of weeks away due to delays on the internal fittings
 
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Ryry said:
According to real-time Heaton movement was cancelled. Was watching York rail can and there was nothing passing through
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I have 156 496 at Eastleigh since 20th Jan so must be major work. Perhaps the 156 bodies are really life expired.
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Updated lists 07/06/20, corrections welcome. Any update on the 156's at Holbeck as having digital train mods and new moquette would be appreciated as I've not seen anything to confirm this yet, nor as to what is currently in. 150104 and 150106 are both pictured now as fully logo'd so I would assume internal work has been completed as units do not receive these if not done AFAIK.

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded First Great Western Blue
Unbranded Great Western Railway Green
158860 has thank you NHS livery

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
FGW – First Great Western
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls


150001 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats

150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150133 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 – Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150145 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150148 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

150120,123 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet

150201 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150215 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Kilmarnock)
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156426 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (at Holbeck for DTM)
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156460 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156463 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (at Holbeck for DTM)
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)

Refurbished units with Richmond seats but no Digital Train Modifications retain floor carpet, this is replaced during Digital Train Modification

158752 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158844 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
# 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158850 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 has cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

FCC - First Capital Connect
Units not in bold are now off lease
Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Derby RTC for Bogic Bolster crack repairs)
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
 
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Spent too much time in Scotland when they stripped it down they found a lot of haggis, shortbread and all the radiators were filled with whisky. Also it's the first one Eastleigh have done for northern so always takes a little longer
 
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158757 said:
323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
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A few corrections to the 323s:
323223 is refurbished, released from Wolverton 23/05/2020.
323227 is not at Wolverton, as far as I know. I have it as being released on 18/04/2020.
323233 is not refurbished AFAIAA.

In simple terms, they are all refurbished except 323224/231/233/237, with 323225/235 currently in works being done.
 
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158757 said:
Updated lists 07/06/20, corrections welcome. Any update on the 156's at Holbeck as having digital train mods and new moquette would be appreciated as I've not seen anything to confirm this yet, nor as to what is currently in. 150104 and 150106 are both pictured now as fully logo'd so I would assume internal work has been completed as units do not receive these if not done AFAIK.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded First Great Western Blue
Unbranded Great Western Railway Green
158860 has thank you NHS livery

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
FGW – First Great Western
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls


150001 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Unrefurbished, GWR moquette Ashbourne seats

150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150133 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 – Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150145 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150148 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

150120,123 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet

150201 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150215 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Kilmarnock)
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156426 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (at Holbeck for DTM)
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156460 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156463 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (at Holbeck for DTM)
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)

Refurbished units with Richmond seats but no Digital Train Modifications retain floor carpet, this is replaced during Digital Train Modification

158752 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158844 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
# 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158850 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Crewe)
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 has cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

# 170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

FCC - First Capital Connect
Units not in bold are now off lease
Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Derby RTC for Bogic Bolster crack repairs)
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
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Thankyou.
Interesting that you show the latest return from Bristol 158 817 as not done to connect spec like previous 845 and 849. Perhaps Northern have abandoned it.
My list of 323s is slightly different with 224, 225, 233, 231, 235 237 not refurbished ( 223 and 235 in works). May be my error. K
 
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43096 said:
A few corrections to the 323s:
323223 is refurbished, released from Wolverton 23/05/2020.
323227 is not at Wolverton, as far as I know. I have it as being released on 18/04/2020.
323233 is not refurbished AFAIAA.

In simple terms, they are all refurbished except 323224/231/233/237, with 323225/235 currently in works being done.
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There was some confusion between 223 and 233, but this photo shows 233 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdan14025/49932272872/ and there's a photo here https://www.flickr.com/photos/185204313@N07/49970410386/ showing 223 as unrefurbished as of 3 days ago.

You're quite right that 227 is no longer is as I've found here https://www.flickr.com/photos/thesilkmoth/49964349003/, I'll update the list for that.

superkev said:
Thankyou.
Interesting that you show the latest return from Bristol 158 817 as not done to connect spec like previous 845 and 849. Perhaps Northern have abandoned it.
My list of 323s is slightly different with 224, 225, 233, 231, 235 237 not refurbished ( 223 and 235 in works). May be my error. K
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I think the connect spec is done at a later time now as per the digital train mods, just to get them through the works. The unrefurbished units are very tired now.

225 went to works on the 23rd May as shown here https://www.flickr.com/photos/therailwayjournal/49926892421/ , with 235 going down on the 10th https://www.flickr.com/photos/northamptontoffeeman/49879282222/
 
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