Nottingham 'Bus War'

[Marcus Fryer]

Not really - the single fare is £5 which is also the daily cap on a Mango card after 9.30 (so effectively the same price as a return)

What is the Nottingham to Derby single fare on i4/Indigo? Is it less than on Red Arrow? If so, the difference would represent the amenity value, and could be the basis of a surcharge to OAP pass holders.

 

[ag51ruk]

What is the Nottingham to Derby single fare on i4/Indigo? Is it less than on Red Arrow? If so, the difference would represent the amenity value, and be surcharged to OAP pass holders.

Cash fare on both is less than Red Arrow - £3.30

 

[nottinghamcity]

New skylink express livery looks pretty good.

 

[howittpie]

New skylink express livery looks pretty good.

Used it yesterday and had a nice personal chauffeur both ways of the other 4 journeys I saw totalled one passenger.

 

[WillPS]

Interesting that they've chosen to use the old branding, rather than taking the opportunity to bring it in line with current branding.

 

[tbone]

I think because Skylink is operated by Kinchbus and Tremt Barton it is rum as its own sub brand.

 

[winston270twm]

Yourbus changes from VOSA today:

PC1094655/13 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Long Eaton and Sandiacre given service number 29 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


PC1094655/14 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nottingham and Bilborough, Burnside Green given service number Y28 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.


PC1094655/15 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Derby and Nottingham given service number Y5 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.


PC1094655/19 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Langley and Belper given service number 138/137 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.


PC1094655/32 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nottingham and Sandiacre given service number Y4 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.

 

[ChathillMan]

I'd be surprised if Trent Barton are currently getting the same reimbursement rate for passes on the Red Arrow as opposed a "normal" services

 

[Ginga]

http://www.route-one.net/legal/your-bus-drivers-get-bans/

 

[Robertj21a]

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Very poor performance by Yourbus. I guess that the company will struggle to answer some of the allegations made against the management when it's their turn to appear before the TC.

 

[nottinghamcity]

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Very poor performance by Yourbus. I guess that the company will struggle to answer some of the allegations made against the management when it's their turn to appear before the TC.

Or would that be the reason for their appearance last month?

 

[Robertj21a]

Or would that be the reason for their appearance last month?

The article indicates that consideration of action against their O-licence has been adjourned. I would guess that this is when the management will have to plead their case, make loads of excuses etc.

 

[winston270twm]

Yourbus changes from VOSA today:

PC1094655/13 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Long Eaton and Sandiacre given service number 29 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


PC1094655/14 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nottingham and Bilborough, Burnside Green given service number Y28 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.


PC1094655/15 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Derby and Nottingham given service number Y5 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.


PC1094655/19 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Langley and Belper given service number 138/137 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.


PC1094655/32 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Nottingham and Sandiacre given service number Y4 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Timetable.

PC1094655/32 - DUNN MOTOR TRACTION LTD T/A YOUR BUS, HEANOR GATE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, HEANOR GATE ROAD, HEANOR, DE75 7RJ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Nottingham and Sandiacre given service number Y4 effective from 27-Mar-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

 

[howittpie]

A couple of the Yourbus service changes are the y4 will stop on Friar Lane instead of Beastmarket Hills with additional morning journeys giving a 10 minutes frequency and the y5 is serving Broadmarsh Bus Station with journeys running up to 10 minutes earlier.

 

[nottinghamcity]

Noticed this registration today:

PB0002362/191 - NOTTINGHAM CITY TRANSPORT LTD, LOWER PARLIAMENT STREET, NOTTINGHAM, NG1 1GG
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: City, Beastmarket Hill
Finish Point: Boots Factory, Fifth Avenue
Via:
Service Number: 49
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-SEP-2016
Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays Bank holiday Mondays

Be interested in the route, really it is a Clifton group number

 

[gordonthemoron]

could it follow the 48 route as far as Clifton Roundabout?

 

[edwin_m]

Maybe they're having second thoughts about the 48A and running a 49 instead?

 

[Mitch in Notts]

Is it Boots workers complaining about not being able to use their Easyrider cards on Citylink Network?

 

[ag51ruk]

September seems like an odd date to start a service registered in March - could be connected to University term times?

 

[edwin_m]

When does the P&R bus provision contract end? Maybe the council has decided not to extend it to Boots any longer, or even NCT is planning to take it on commercially?

 

[nottinghamcity]

When does the P&R bus provision contract end? Maybe the council has decided not to extend it to Boots any longer, or even NCT is planning to take it on commercially?

I could see this being the case
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I see NCT are promoting themselves as the top performing UK operator according to passenger focus:
https://www.nctx.co.uk/2016/03/nott...in-the-uk-with-improved-satisfaction-results/

 

[Marcus Fryer]

From trentbarton.co.uk

red arrow changes to concessionary passes

Nottingham City Council are planning to recatagorise red arrow as a premium service from 1 April 2016, therefore if these plans are approved concessionary passes will no longer be valid for customers boarding the red arrow in Nottingham and at Nottingham QMC.

The Council will decide in coming weeks whether to exclude red arrow from the routes holders of an English National Concessionary Travel Card can travel on. This, says the Council, is due to the service’s limited stops,express journey times, large storage, dedicated bike racks and spacious seats with tables.

Nottingham City Council’s decision means pass holders will still be able to enjoy free travel on red arrow when boarding at Derby to travel to Nottingham, but will have to pay when travelling in the other direction from Nottingham. Derby City Council will continue to support concessionary passes on red arrow, so pass holders will still be able to enjoy free travel from Derby to Nottingham but not on the return trip. Alternatively, concessionary pass holders can use indigo and i4 which will still be free.

Once a decision has been made by Nottingham City Council we will release more information.

If you are unhappy about this decision by Nottingham City Council, please contact your local Councilors and Members of Parliament.

https://www.trentbarton.co.uk/news-and-media/our-news/article/changestoconcessionarypasses

Has any update to this been published?

 

[Robertj21a]

Has any update to this been published?

See the other thread re 'Concessionary passes'

 

[nottinghamcity]

From Nottingham city council's website:

Red Arrow

Nottingham City Council have recently withdrawn concessionary travel on the Red Arrow service from Nottingham to Derby. This services is classed as an amenity service rather than local bus travel. A local bus service generally serves all stops along the route. However, the Red Arrow operates as a limited stop express service.

You can still use your pass if you are travelling on the Red Arrow on the route from Derby to Nottingham. This is because journeys on a return trip will start within a different local transport authority area.

 

[Mitch in Notts]

So once they've seen how successful this bus pass cut is, next it'll be:
Skylink Express between Clifton & EMA.
RapidOne between Nottingham & Langley Mill.
Any more thoughts......

 

[edwin_m]

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So once they've seen how successful this bus pass cut is, next it'll be:
Skylink Express between Clifton & EMA.
RapidOne between Nottingham & Langley Mill.
Any more thoughts......

Quite possible.

Local authorities are being squeezed both in their central funding and in their ability to raise council tax, not to mention many of their costs increasing above inflation and likely to be aggravated by the "living wage". Stopping free travel for pensioners for what is essentially a medium-distance coach service is more justifiable than may other cuts, especially for the Red Arrow where alternatives (albeit much slower) will remain free.

See also the decision to stop NCT through ticketing to the Link buses.

 

[Robertj21a]

So once they've seen how successful this bus pass cut is, next it'll be:
Skylink Express between Clifton & EMA.
RapidOne between Nottingham & Langley Mill.
Any more thoughts......

I doubt that it will be too noticeable on the Skylink Express given that I've never seen more than 3 people on board.

 

[howittpie]

It appears Yourbus are short of drivers today as they have put on facebook they are running a Sunday service on the y4, y5 and y36 today.

 

[nottinghamcity]

It appears Yourbus are short of drivers today as they have put on facebook they are running a Sunday service on the y4, y5 and y36 today.

Or is it that they are just short of passengers! Seriously though the daytime Saturday and Sunday timetables on those routes aren't massively different.

 

[howittpie]

It caused problems earlier on a lot of people around Inham Nook buy weeklies and monthly tickets and we're left waiting this morning when it was only hourly.