...the next expansion of Oyster beyond the current area of availability will e to the north on Great Northern services to Hertford North...
I saw this on District Dave
http://districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/30131/oyster-developments
might be useful?
Welwyn seems a bit far out for this - something analogous to the treatment of Redhill line stations would seem appropriate - given Grays and Watford Junction are in the same 'zone' for Oyster purposes - would it technically be feasible for Redhill and Welwyn to be in the same 'zone' or would that not work?
Through the front door to be fair. It’s how the single only fares on Oyster PAYG work, and Oyster is allegedly what people are crying out for. A case of “be careful what you wish for”?Or more likely, evening peak being introduced by the backdoor.
UNO buses already accept contactless payment, so it may be a small step for them to accept Oyster. Not sure about Arriva's plans though.My MP has written this as 'breaking news' (as clearly he'll want to take the credit), so I am fairly certain it will be going out as far as Welwyn Garden City. I am sure it is part of a plan for TfL to take over, as is widely predicted. It's not so much a case of if now, but when. I think it will be the next franchise unless things go horribly wrong in December and GTR is stripped of the contract.
One thing with extending the zones out to WGC (rather than the bodges of letters, such as to Broxbourne) would be the desire to get Oyster accepted on local buses. I can't see HCC assisting in making that happen, so it would be a rather awkward situation where Oyster can be used by rail, but not bus. Whereas currently at Potters Bar, you have the opposite today where (some) buses take Oyster, but you can't use it on the trains.
If you're going to do zones, then it becomes messy. I wait to see how they're going to do this extension.
UNO buses already accept contactless payment, so it may be a small step for them to accept Oyster. Not sure about Arriva's plans though.
Apparently there's an announcement tomorrow that Oyster will extend to Welwyn Garden City soon. I assume that means Contactless cards too, and maybe also to Hertford North?
The Oyster card system, used by rail commuters across London, is to be extended to Welwyn Garden City.
Welwyn Hatfield MP Grant Shapps has told BOB fm that a formal announcement is to be made today (Friday) by the Department for Transport.
Would this also mean that they have to keep the barriers closed at WGC? It's a scrum in the evenings trying to get off the platform so they usually just open them up and my Key card doesn't register when they do this (not sure if it's because the barrier is open or if there are so many people piling through that the gates never 'clear'). It will be interesting to see how they deal with this.
Lets hope that this doesn't result in the weekend super off peak travelcards being withdrawn. I fear a large increase in weekend fares.....
I imagine those normal fares will still be available. Those 'in the know' will continue to buy them, being subsidised by those who don't.
Whereas currently at Potters Bar, you have the opposite today where (some) buses take Oyster, but you can't use it on the trains.
And Dorking. You can get there with Oyster on a 465 bus but you can't come back on a train......
It'll be the same anywhere outside London where Oyster is accepted on the railway but has buses not operated by TfL (or even inside London - a PP mentions Uno, but there's the 409, 402, 420 various routes around Kingston, Heathrow and other places too)And Dorking. You can get there with Oyster on a 465 bus but you can't come back on a train......
Local BBC News is carrying the story:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-46397470
But still not on the DfT website and can't find any info online regarding zones etc
Paper tickets still exist at stations like Cheshunt.
And Shenfield. More expensive than the Oyster fares. I save something like £20 per week using contactless.
I thought that Oyster was only valid on the TfL Rail stopping service. Apart from being checked on the train I can't see how that could be enforced though, the barriers at Liverpool Street don't know which train you are about to board or just came in on.And Shenfield. More expensive than the Oyster fares. I save something like £20 per week using contactless.
Thanks, I am sure that I saw something saying that it was TfL Rail only. That may just have been somebody posting incorrectly here of course.Oyster/contactless is valid on any train between Sheffield and Liverpool Street.
The Freedom pass is only valid on TfL Rail to Shenfield.Thanks, I am sure that I saw something saying that it was TfL Rail only. That may just have been somebody posting incorrectly here of course.
Greater Anglia website confirms validity.