Passengers with no manners

[Bletchleyite]

Do you get the overwhelming urge to yank them backwards?

Wouldn't like to comment. I do like when people won't move out of the way standing in the door and looking down at them (I'm rather tall), and if that still doesn't result in them moving rather assertively saying "If you don't let me off you won't get on".

 

[BestWestern]

A big dislike of mine (avoiding the urge to say 'pet' hate...) is dog owners who think the aisle is some sort of canine rest area. In some cases they will at least have the decency to do some sort of token gesture grab of the lead or similar when somebody passes, others however will fail to even look up from their book or whatever.

I have no problem with dogs at all, but of course many do and that is hardly a secret. People shouldn't have to step over a potentially rather large animal whilst passing through a train, and for anyone who has a genuine fear of dogs it can't be much fun. There is also a very significant risk of injury to either the dog or the people forced to step over it. Dog owners should ensure they travel in a area where their animal is not a hazard to itself or others!

 

[EAD]

Boarding before people can alight often goes hand in hand with those that ignore the block of people waiting to board aligned with the doors and just barge in. A daily occurrence for me in SWT land (no prizes for guessing which station). When alighting I will politely ask people to wait if they start pushing against me to board or indeed give some encouragement by blocking their path (in reality that is quite easy as people usually crowd in to such an extent that there is only room for 1 person at a time to alight, thus making the whole process very slow).

For those blatantly cutting the queue while I am trying to board, I politely but firmly make a point of sticking my arm out and holding the door frame to prevent the worst offenders.

The one that gets me the most though are those that stand by the door but seem incapable of alighting onto the platform to let others off quickly, thus blocking door access and slowing everything down. There seems to be an irrational fear that the train will leave without them!

 

[paulfoel]

What about those people you see running down the corridor or you look in the window and half way down the train they;re still trying to get their back out of the overhead storage?

10 people have left the train, 10 have got on but they're still getting their bag.

Those who get up to stand by the door to wait all the way from the previous stop are a bit extreme but you know the train is stopping. At least get your bag ready and be ready to leave your seat as the train stops....
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I DO walk through the train pulling out the no-show reservations. It can be up to a third of them. And it is not uncommon to have the person sitting in the unreserved seat beside / across from it to say "That's my seat", sometimes followed by "I'll move into it if the train gets busy"...

I never understand how these are unused. Do people book a ticket and reservation and then think nah I'll get a different train? Or do they just get on and not bother with their reservation because its empty anyway?

As opposed I suppose to the OCD reservation hunters. Like I said before, had someone once who walked up and down the train for 20 minutes trying to find their exact seat (and tried to incorrectly twice turf me out of my seat). This was on a train about 10% full!

 

[Bletchleyite]

I never understand how these are unused. Do people book a ticket and reservation and then think nah I'll get a different train?

I've done this. As long as reservations are not chargeable people will do it - just reserve on their most likely train.

Or do they just get on and not bother with their reservation because its empty anyway?

And this. I like seat selectors, though, as they allow me to choose the seat I want (or to know it is taken and choose a different train or flight if possible). Prior to these a reservation was more of an "if it's busy I will use it, otherwise I will choose my preferred seat".

As opposed I suppose to the OCD reservation hunters. Like I said before, had someone once who walked up and down the train for 20 minutes trying to find their exact seat (and tried to incorrectly twice turf me out of my seat). This was on a train about 10% full!

To be fair to such people, occasional users don't know you can sit where you like, nor do they know about reservation marking. Like how you pay the fare on a UK bus, it's something that is never actually written anywhere, you just have to know or ask someone.

It's quite a reasonable assumption that if you have a ticket with a seat number on it that you must sit in that seat, even if it isn't the case for most TOCs. Indeed, the wording of the Advance T&Cs strongly imply (at GNER's behest, if I recall rightly) that you must sit in the booked seat.

 

[DeeGee]

I never understand how these are unused. Do people book a ticket and reservation and then think nah I'll get a different train? Or do they just get on and not bother with their reservation because its empty anyway?

-Ticket booking websites default to reserving places unless you say you don't want one.
-You've booked in case of a busy train, but it's half-empty and the allocated seat is next to someone when there are dozens of unreserved seats where you won't have company.
-The reserved seat has no view.
-You've booked two advances in case of travel plans changing as it's cheaper to do that than book a walk-up;
-You've been given a seat on a table and your cellmates are a family with a small child or a hen do;
-You're making a long journey and need to eat a takeaway meal...

 

[416GSi]

I was on a train one Sunday, and an older male was standing in front of a door panel. I said "Excuse me, I need to get to the door", and he turned around, looked me up and down in my uniform and snarls "I'm getting off in a minute, you can bloody-well wait!" and turns his back on me.....

.....he spends about ten seconds pushing the door handle. He then turns back to me, and shouts "Why isn't this bloody door working?" - I held up the CDL key with a big grin and said "Because you won't let me get to it to unlock it, sir". ......the man finally moved out of the way and let me unlock the door.....

I've witnessed something similar, where one passenger just would not get out of the way of the very polite conductor also trying to release the doors. Despite repeated request of the conductor and the other passengers he just wouldn't move. In the end the conductor walked to the other end of the 158 to release the doors. Up-to that point the train was on time as well, but this passenger's action delayed the train.

I don’t know how the conductor kept her cool as this passenger was really quite rude to her and the others people around him. But the thing that really annoyed me was that this obstructive passenger was very critical of the conductor and the train company for delaying him!

Some people!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Had an annoying one earlier. I'm at Dewsbury, waiting in my usual position to board the middle car of the 185. I wait level with the canopy posts to allow people to alight. A woman with a huge wheeled suitcase steps off and is staring into middle distance up the platform as she walks straight into me then tuts loudly. :roll:

 

[Master29]

I never understand how these are unused. Do people book a ticket and reservation and then think nah I'll get a different train? Or do they just get on and not bother with their reservation because its empty anyway?

As opposed I suppose to the OCD reservation hunters. Like I said before, had someone once who walked up and down the train for 20 minutes trying to find their exact seat (and tried to incorrectly twice turf me out of my seat). This was on a train about 10% full!

Not all train companies give you the choice of exactly where you want to sit. Yes, you can enter the criteria you wish for but it can still be pot luck as to where you can end up. If I were to see a better seat unreserved or reserved/not taken up I would go there instead. GWR and AGA spring to mind. Also, as is often with XC you don`t always get the type of seat you ask for. Many say window when there isn`t or only a poor view, so another reason to move.

 

[NorthernSpirit]

Bags on seats, and sitting in the aisle depriving others of a window seat is a crime whose punishment sadly cannot be well fitted these days. The worst offenders of bags and aisles in my experience are of the female persuasion.

Sadly a lot of the female variety think that when they have bought a ticket it means that they can have two or more seats. What does my head in was when one female who was more ingrosed on reading a mag and listening to her mp3, placed her foot on the seat where I were sitting before placing her foot squarely into my meatballs, needless to say I pushed her foot down violently and told her if she did it again her shoe is going out of the window.

I wasn't in the best mood that day either otherwise I could have thumped them and smashed their mp3 to bits.

 

[berwicksfinest]

As a driver, pass rides are usually serene, and I have a fairly long fuse but one thing that really does gripe me is families and I use that in the loosest term is when Mum and Dad sit down but the children use the coach as a personal play area and then parents seem to dissolve all responsibility and knowledge.

 

[47271]

A super busy TPE 185 through Manchester has got to beat any train in the London area for stupid rude passenger behaviour, many a time I've been temporarily prevented from getting off at Oxford Road by idiots trying to cram on. I don't think it's anything to do with northerners being unpleasant, I think the lower frequency of service combined with the crush instils a greater level of agitation and irrational behaviour. If I heard that people had been injured in a stampede on Platform 4 there it wouldn't surprise me.

I spend so much time on trains I'd have blood pressure through the roof if most of what goes on bothered me!

 

[Johnuk123]

Sadly a lot of the female variety think that when they have bought a ticket it means that they can have two or more seats. What does my head in was when one female who was more ingrosed on reading a mag and listening to her mp3, placed her foot on the seat where I were sitting before placing her foot squarely into my meatballs, needless to say I pushed her foot down violently and told her if she did it again her shoe is going out of the window.

I wasn't in the best mood that day either otherwise I could have thumped them and smashed their mp3 to bits.

If anyone of either sex had put their foot near my man bits they'd have made a big mistake.

 

[trainophile]

On the topic of misplaced feet, sitting opposite someone (usually a bloke, just for the sake of evening up the remark about females and their baggage ), who stretches his legs out and parks his feet under my seat, meaning I have to arrange mine either side of his.

I have been known to accidentally tread on such feet when standing up to leave the train .

 

[edwin_m]

In similar vein, the person who sits opposite at a table and dumps their bags on the floor, or rather on my feet!

 

[MassDiscussion]

I get the same train every day. On my way to work one day, and there was a lot of people getting off at the same stop as me. I joined the queue of people waiting to get off. The guy in front of me got off the train and just stopped right where he was. I had to cling on to the door to stop myself either bumping into him or falling down onto the tracks (I am very slim, it wouldn't be impossible). I may have used an expletive at the gentleman, but it was more out of fear than anything else. Yes, I should've probably looked where I was going, but what sort of idiot blocks the door like that?

 

[paulfoel]

In similar vein, the person who sits opposite at a table and dumps their bags on the floor, or rather on my feet!

Had that once. Woman got one and sat at table seat opposite. Then rammed her bags down past her lap onto the floor onto my feet. Then shoved it over even more with her feet. Unbelievable.

I moved my feet but I had no room.

I will admit when I got up next stop I did make sure I accidentally dragged her bag out with my foot and punt it along the carriage a bit.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I get the same train every day. On my way to work one day, and there was a lot of people getting off at the same stop as me. I joined the queue of people waiting to get off. The guy in front of me got off the train and just stopped right where he was. I had to cling on to the door to stop myself either bumping into him or falling down onto the tracks (I am very slim, it wouldn't be impossible). I may have used an expletive at the gentleman, but it was more out of fear than anything else. Yes, I should've probably looked where I was going, but what sort of idiot blocks the door like that?

This. Getting on or off a bus or train (or tram... or lift for that matter) and instantly stopping is a real pet hate. I'm not a violent person but anyone doing this is likely to get a firm shove.

 

[Antman]

Smartly dressed guy who barged an RPI out of the way, almost knocking him over this morning at Maidstone East, as he rushed for the train. A couple of them went after him and he eventually showed them his valid ticket not before suggesting they should be doing something more useful and demanding to know why trains were being cancelled because of staff shortages when there were half a dozen of them standing around just getting in the way!

 

[Mr Fizz]

My pet hate is most definitely the ones who seem to be taken by surprise by arriving at such a large station like Birmingham New St. So when you have stood aside to let others off and you finally start to get on, you are then suddenly confronted by a panting, rushing, panicky person dragging a suitcase and laptop bag. They then give you a dirty look for daring to get on before they've got off, despite the fact that no one got off for 5 seconds so you though it was 'all clear'. I mean how difficult is it to gather your belongings in good time before getting off? This happens regularly on the 08:04 New St - Bournemouth.

 

[GarethJohn]

In May I experienced a rude mannered man complaining about bad manners (about 60 years old, grey beard, a red face, dressed like a Steam Enthusiast. I was half expecting a thread from him on here) while he was getting off a train at Preston he was complaining loudly about the rude passengers who were waiting patiently. Everyone in line were aware that the Train was terminating and heading back to Crewe due to the WCML engineering works, so waited for all the departing passengers to get off first.
Somehow this made him angry with him then proceeding along the Platform shouting ''Wait for me to get off first''. Due to Leeds playing in Preston their was a large Police presence which appeared to quiet him down a bit. It takes some bad manners to distract your attention from the presence of a large amount of boisterous Leeds United fans.

 

[47271]

I had someone stop dead in front of me the other day having just passed through an LU tube gate. He had a question for the staff member standing close by, 'how do I get to Victoria?' or something, but it didn't seem to occur to him that hundreds of people were streaming into the gateline behind him.

I imagine these people drive their cars, if they have one, in a similar way!

 

[backontrack]

I'm not really sure why you felt the need to mention the fact that he was Asian but hey ho; you've got to wonder: why? :roll:. Having traveled extensively overseas I think it's fair to say that in many countries the idea of waiting in a queue is unheard of!

Hey, it was just a physical description!

Your comment was completely superfluous, but you've got to wonder: why? :roll:
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Indeed it is. I've seen a well-known actor pull that particular trick.

Are you able to PM who?

 

[181]

My pet hate is most definitely the ones who seem to be taken by surprise by arriving at such a large station like Birmingham New St. So when you have stood aside to let others off and you finally start to get on, you are then suddenly confronted by a panting, rushing, panicky person dragging a suitcase and laptop bag. They then give you a dirty look for daring to get on before they've got off, despite the fact that no one got off for 5 seconds so you though it was 'all clear'. I mean how difficult is it to gather your belongings in good time before getting off?

It's not always easy -- given that some people start queuing to get off well before the train arrives, unless you're quick enough to get in front of them, you can easily find yourself standing in a queue with no access to your luggage in the rack at the end of the carriage until the doors open and people start moving; when you do reach it, if it's buried under someone else's, it may take a while to extract it, leading to the situation described above.

 

[Mr Fizz]

It's not always easy -- given that some people start queuing to get off well before the train arrives, unless you're quick enough to get in front of them, you can easily find yourself standing in a queue with no access to your luggage in the rack at the end of the carriage until the doors open and people start moving; when you do reach it, if it's buried under someone else's, it may take a while to extract it, leading to the situation described above.

That may well be the case (pun intended!)

Another annoyance is people like me who get on a 1st class carriage that is joined to a standard class to avoid waiting to get on, then walk through into standard before everyone else. I'm good at it, but its annoying if someone else thinks of it and beats me to it :-P

 

[Deepgreen]

That may well be the case (pun intended!)

Another annoyance is people like me who get on a 1st class carriage that is joined to a standard class to avoid waiting to get on, then walk through into standard before everyone else. I'm good at it, but its annoying if someone else thinks of it and beats me to it :-P

A particular annoyance is those who know they are acting annoyingly to others and either think it's funny and/or don't care and carry on doing it anyway. Hmm.

 

[Wolfie]

Had that once. Woman got one and sat at table seat opposite. Then rammed her bags down past her lap onto the floor onto my feet. Then shoved it over even more with her feet. Unbelievable.

I moved my feet but I had no room.

I will admit when I got up next stop I did make sure I accidentally dragged her bag out with my foot and punt it along the carriage a bit.

I have had this happen to me... as soon as it came onto my feet the bag got kicked back PDQ..

 

[hounddog]

I have had this happen to me... as soon as it came onto my feet the bag got kicked back PDQ..

So rather than ask 'can you move your bag off my feet?' you just kicked it. Makes you part of the problem, surely?

 

[Wookiee]

So rather than ask 'can you move your bag off my feet?' you just kicked it. Makes you part of the problem, surely?

Ignorance doesn't deserve good manners.

 

[phil281]

I had someone stop dead in front of me the other day having just passed through an LU tube gate. He had a question for the staff member standing close by, 'how do I get to Victoria?' or something, but it didn't seem to occur to him that hundreds of people were streaming into the gateline behind him.

I imagine these people drive their cars, if they have one, in a similar way!

THIS DRIVES ME MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The lack of awareness of others around them is simply astonishing sometimes on the tube.