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Hitachi 8xx series no question. Fast accelerating, sounds great, clean, modern, is electric capable so great for the environment. The future.
How many votes for 68 are just because LHCS good, MU bad? I personally don't really like them for the simple reason of the amount of noise they produce.
I quite like the 397s myself, for the UK. Those and the Bombardier Flexity trams, though they're not really trains.
For Europe, probably DB ICE4 or Abellio Mitteldeutschland Alstom Coradia LINT.
It's the same with those who like Pacers. They'll admit that they are rubbish trains, but they personally enjoy them.397s aren't proving too reliable, as today at Manchester Piccadilly demonstrated.
397s aren't proving too reliable, as today at Manchester Piccadilly demonstrated.
Why? Nobody's making you put the blind down!That said, I prefer the lack of blinds on the 397.
It's the same with those who like Pacers. They'll admit that they are rubbish trains, but they personally enjoy them.
Similarly, I know the 397s are unreliable, but they are also very nice trains when they do work.
Why? Nobody's making you put the blind down!
Oh I see... not sure why I didn't think of thatNo, but I may be subject to someone else deciding to put it down. They are mostly not confined to one seat, which is precisely why I think they're a bad idea. Horizontal mounted blinds or curtains are much better as each window seat occupant can decide for themselves.
No, but I may be subject to someone else deciding to put it down. They are mostly not confined to one seat, which is precisely why I think they're a bad idea. Horizontal mounted blinds or curtains are much better as each window seat occupant can decide for themselves.
Didn't think the Mk5 sets had blinds? When I went on one, there were slots for them, but nothing actually there.The Mk5 has a higher quality interior in terms of the panelling etc (but a bad layout in Standard). Has a very European feel to it. That said, I prefer the lack of blinds on the 397.
I reckon I'll go for 80x. The seats are rubbish, but the train is overall pretty good. Or the FLIRT, but they are (surprisingly) having reliability issues.
Didn't think the Mk5 sets had blinds? When I went on one, there were slots for them, but nothing actually there.
They are also the source of annoying rattling when the train is at speed.No, but I may be subject to someone else deciding to put it down. They are mostly not confined to one seat, which is precisely why I think they're a bad idea. Horizontal mounted blinds or curtains are much better as each window seat occupant can decide for themselves.
I agree. Was surprised to see curtains on Chiltern hauled sets. It obviously wasn't busy, but it would be useful if it was, prevents arguments, and also is much more effective at blocking out the sun.No, but I may be subject to someone else deciding to put it down. They are mostly not confined to one seat, which is precisely why I think they're a bad idea. Horizontal mounted blinds or curtains are much better as each window seat occupant can decide for themselves.
Have you ever actually had a verbal argument with someone over this, or just a few rounds of periodically passive aggressively setting the blinds to your preferred position?I agree. Was surprised to see curtains on Chiltern hauled sets. It obviously wasn't busy, but it would be useful if it was, prevents arguments, and also is much more effective at blocking out the sun.
Yes - it is right next to the 68!Having talked about Mk5as, though, the First Class is something really special.
This presumably means an absolutely thunderous amount of noise.Yes - it is right next to the 68!
I've only had a brief foray into first class on the Mk5a sets (whilst the catering attendant sorted my coffees as we left Huddersfield) and considering how loud the 68s sound when they pass, I was surprised (and the gricer in me was slightly disappointed ) at how little I could hear the loco. Whatever criticism can be rightly levelled at the coach design, sound insulation isn't one of them.This presumably means an absolutely thunderous amount of noise.
Whether that is good or bad is in the eye (or rather, the ear) of the beholder.
I've only used 172s between Smethwick GB and Bordesley, but they wipe the floor with any similar diesel units. If only the proposal for extra units for such services in the "not London" areas had been taken forward...Unit wise: Class 172 - Big Improvement for the Nuneaton - Coventry - Leamington line.
Loco wise: Class 68 - Shifting the loaded stone over Stenson Junction when they were utilised on 6U76/77, definitely awesome sound