A total shambles in Market Street, it's an embarrassment to the city.nice to see the car park given back to trains
where do the cabs go to now ??
fair old distance the with a minimum about 10 steps onto the waverly footbrige then lift to the platformA total shambles in Market Street, it's an embarrassment to the city.
There's lifts to all levels but they don't cope when a busy train spills out.fair old distance the with a minimum about 10 steps onto the waverly footbrige then lift to the platform
or a hellish via waverly bridge and ramp
is there any drop off at platform level at all ??
Curious that there doesn't appear to be any studded or yellow bumped area - assuming they're going to install then why not do it at the same time as tarmacking?New signals commissioned today at Plat 5 and 6. Not long now until they come into use I would assume?
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The other side is a bus stand.Agreed that the taxi situation on Market Street is simply not fit for purpose.
Is there any reason that this can't be used as the taxi rank? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9...tuaWlmsvIBI9yLVdHP-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Seems perfectly suited; it's covered, has a nice turning space, wide enough for two lanes - entry and exit - and crucially has stairless access so perfect for less mobile passengers.
Calton Road is a weird one. The only access to Edinburgh City Centre is to turn all the way round and come back onto the top of Leith Walk. The roads around there are already pretty full for most of the day (the building works don't help). I don't think road planners would thank you for putting all the taxi traffic through that little tight turn.Just looked at Google Maps and thought could taxis not share with drop off point on Calton Road or have it expanded to have a dedicated taxi rank?
Calton Road is wide enough towards New Street to accomodate a taxi rank feeding into the current drop off area. Lift capacity would need to be increased, but in my view this location would be less chaotic than the total mess that is Market Street at the moment. Cabs could leave via New Street and Market Street as well as the admittedly tricky turn into Leith Street. I'm not saying that it would be ideal, but it would still be better than what we have.Calton Road is a weird one. The only access to Edinburgh City Centre is to turn all the way round and come back onto the top of Leith Walk. The roads around there are already pretty full for most of the day (the building works don't help). I don't think road planners would thank you for putting all the taxi traffic through that little tight turn.
Secondly, the Carlton Road exit is very awkward. It's right at one end of the station, and the access to platforms 1 and 20 are awful. To get to platform 1, one can't simply use the stairs down (because there aren't any). Instead one has to go over to platform 2, walk back to the Waverley Steps exit, go up and across there and then back down onto platforms 1/20 to walk all the way back to platform 1. It's dreadful.
If cars were excluded from Market Street it would be less of a problem but then you would just increase issues for private cars dropping off and picking up as well. Being deep in the valley there is no ideal solution to either problem I can think off without major work.Calton Road is wide enough towards New Street to accomodate a taxi rank feeding into the current drop off area. Lift capacity would need to be increased, but in my view this location would be less chaotic than the total mess that is Market Street at the moment. Cabs could leave via New Street and Market Street as well as the admittedly tricky turn into Leith Street. I'm not saying that it would be ideal, but it would still be better than what we have.
As for reaching P1 from the Calton Road entrance, it's perfectly possible to the extent that it was a temporary arrangement a few years ago via what was the post van entrance while (as I recall) they were pulling down the old mail handling depot to create that useless piece of empty tarmac that used to be the short stay car park by P2. They'd just need to find a way of barriering it.
You used to get 20 mins free in the short stay - ideal for nipping in to M&S for a bit of food shopping!
Well spotted, that is a bit of a mess. Needs one of those big cast iron signs reading "ALL TRAINS STOP HERE" that you used to get.They could do with tidying up that collection of Platform 11 Stop markers! are there any other stop positions, in that direction, anywhere along the platform? If not, surely a "S ALL" marker would be appropriate? At the very least the Scotrail HST one seems to be superfluous if all other Scotrail DMU and EMU services are to stop there regardless of formation length
upper deck on the car pack, level with the passenger bridge just for taxis and dropping off.If cars were excluded from Market Street it would be less of a problem but then you would just increase issues for private cars dropping off and picking up as well. Being deep in the valley there is no ideal solution to either problem I can think off without major work.
Yes, good idea, and there's already a closed off entrance and ramp on Market Street close to the council offices.upper deck on the car pack, level with the passenger bridge just for taxis and dropping off.
prime real estate above railwaysupper deck on the car pack, level with the passenger bridge just for taxis and dropping off.
prime real estate above railways
my thoughts where similar but more involved but fully over the car park area
bottom level most or all given over to platforms and tracks
first floor booking office taxi rank pick up and drop off direct connections to footbridge levels with some retail
say a further 5 levels with maybe 2 mixed short and long term parking and thee a mixture as require off housing retail office or whatever pays for the whole project
handy link thanksI don't think that would be allowed, there is an act of parliament http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2000/6/enacted/data.html that restricts the height to protect the views of the Waverley valley and the old and new town.