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Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets

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Railperf

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805004 this morning already on just 2 engines. And one of the engines on 895008 seems far more gruff than usual and feeling the vibration through the floor. Hope it's not going to drop a piston.
 
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805004 this morning already on just 2 engines. And one of the engines on 895008 seems far more gruff than usual and feeling the vibration through the floor. Hope it's not going to drop a piston.
Evero engine reliabilty remains poor.
Judging by the acceleration eastbound after Flint, all five Evero sets operating services from Holyhead on Tuesday (8th April) appeared to have an engine out (805005/13/12/01/03 and then 05 again) on 1G00.
This morning, yes 805004 apparently with an engine on 1A14, but 805008 on 1A62 seemingly with all engines working.
 

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Evero engine reliabilty remains poor.
Judging by the acceleration eastbound after Flint, all five Evero sets operating services from Holyhead on Tuesday (8th April) appeared to have an engine out (805005/13/12/01/03 and then 05 again) on 1G00.
This morning, yes 805004 apparently with an engine on 1A14, but 805008 on 1A62 seemingly with all engines working.
Yet this doesn't seem to be a problem on TPE's 802's, which is very much the same as the 805's.
 

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Yet this doesn't seem to be a problem on TPE's 802's, which is very much the same as the 805's.
The 805s have newer versions of the engines that have tighter emission controls than the 800/802 engines, so perhaps that's why they're less reliable, and obviously some sort of reliability fix for the 805 version of the engines will have to be come up with and implemented (didn't the 800 engines previously have retrofitted modifications, to their cooling in that case if I recall correctly)?
 
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Last night's 1700 Euston to Holyhead, 805001, the engine under coach C wasn't working. Didn't really get any later after Chester, most of the lateness being the ridiculous splitting of the incoming 10 cars, already 10 mins late, down to 5 in the platform at Euston, resulting in a 20 mins late start. Apparently due to 'shortage of trains'. Reverts to 10 cars in May with the timetable change
 
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Last night's 1700 Euston to Holyhead, 805001, the engine under coach C wasn't working. Didn't really get any later after Chester, most of the lateness being the ridiculous splitting of the incoming 10 cars, already 10 mins late, down to 5 in the platform at Euston, resulting in a 20 mins late start. Apparently due to 'shortage of trains'. Reverts to 10 cars in May with the timetable change

From Railway Performance Society monitoring, 805001 seems to have been operating with only two out of it's three engines working for the last six weeks.

Regarding TPE Class 802 engine reliability (DJH1971's post #3820), on 24th Feb four out of twelve sets monitored on the climb from Huddersfield towards Standedge were apparently working with an engine out.
 

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Is there any news yet, on when the MU speeds will start operating between London-Crewe for the 805-807 Evero units? This should have been sorted out by Network Rail before now.
 

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Is there any news yet, on when the MU speeds will start operating between London-Crewe for the 805-807 Evero units? This should have been sorted out by Network Rail before now.

1) it‘s not a Network Rail managed project
2) AIUI, later this year, all being well.
 

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It's an Avanti scheme.
Aren't Avanti funding it, and Network rail implementing it? Didn't ORR throw a spanner in the works requiring TASS or some sort of safety case / procedure to prevent overspeeding? It appears some bridge resonance issues are resolved allowing 110mph at the upper end of the Trent Valley, but all the new signage continues to remain bagged over. An 807 driver I spoke to seemed to be in the dark saying driver training on the new limits has not commenced yet.
 

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Aren't Avanti funding it, and Network rail implementing it? Didn't ORR throw a spanner in the works requiring TASS or some sort of safety case / procedure to prevent overspeeding? It appears some bridge resonance issues are resolved allowing 110mph at the upper end of the Trent Valley, but all the new signage continues to remain bagged over. An 807 driver I spoke to seemed to be in the dark saying driver training on the new limits has not commenced yet.

It is an Avanti project which they have contracted NR to deliver. Obviosuly, NR can not deliver it until Avanti say so.
 

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I know that's how it's framed in the franchise era when the plan was formulated, but it seems perverse that the national infrastructure manager should take such a detached attitude to the operation of its principal main line, and with HS2 rolling stock in the mix too.
You'd expect it to be a strategic GBR policy once that body exists, like ETCS rollout.
 
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I know that's how it's framed in the franchise era when the plan was formulated, but it seems perverse that the national infrastructure manager should take such a detached attitude to the operation of its principle main line, and with HS2 rolling stock in the mix too.
You'd expect it to be a strategic GBR policy once that body exists, like ETCS rollout.
Effectively it is an issue between ORR and Avanti over how they will ensure that Evero drivers stick to the new speed limit when driving Everos and don't think they're driving Pendolinos at the Pendolinos speed limit.

AFAIK NR have done all the work needed apart from actually removing the covers from the signs.
 

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I know that's how it's framed in the franchise era when the plan was formulated, but it seems perverse that the national infrastructure manager should take such a detached attitude to the operation of its principal main line, and with HS2 rolling stock in the mix too.
You'd expect it to be a strategic GBR policy once that body exists, like ETCS rollout.
It is purely an AWC project. Thats why the MU can only be applied between PS and EPS. It was proposed by AWC and they own the issues that need resolving before the speed boards can be uncovered.
There have been NO infrastructure changes. Other than signal sighting NR has had little involvement (obviously the Network Change process is managed by them..)
I believe Liverpool based drivers have training starting soon on the MU speeds which are due to be rolled out prior to the Dec 25 TT.
 

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strange there's a path like this occurring on Monday , suspect one of the 805 returning to Hitachi?
 

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