railwayspotter
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I was wondering if anyone could very kindly answer some questions about Sailrail tickets. I will be travelling on quite a few ferries around the UK and Ireland soon and was hoping to get some answers.
Unfortunately there seems to be such little information available about these tickets.
• 1. On the Sailrail tickets to and from Orkney and Shetland there appears to be four separate destinations as follows:
J200 KIRKWALL
J201 LERWICK
J206 STROMNESS
J207 KIRKWL V SCRBSTR
Can anyone advise the valid routes for each destination and what exactly is included in each destination and which ferries can be used for each of these four destinations. I notice that tickets to all four are sold as "Any Permitted" so i am wondering if there is a choice of routes. These tickets don't seem very clear.
• 2. For all Sailrail journeys the Holyhead route seems to have four different options which are all slightly different prices as follows:
00980 ✠ HLYHD IRISHF CIV
00983 ✠ HLYHD STENA CIV
00984 ✠ HOLYHD STENA SHP
01004 ✠ HLYHD SWIFT CIV
Can anyone advise what is the difference between the four options? What exactly does each of the four options include?
• 3. Are any Sailrail tickets available via the Rosslare/Pembroke, Larne/Cairnryan, Dublin/Liverpool, Belfast/Liverpool, ferries? I can't seem to find anything online so i assume they are not available but i just wanted to double check?
• 4. In the UK can Sailrail tickets be purchased onboard the train from the Guard? I notice that it says they are available from all ticket offices (which i believe print them on ordinary ticket stock) but there is nothing about purchasing them from the Guard? I may be travelling from unstaffed stations so i will need to do this. So hopefully this is possible.
• 5. If i buy a Sailrail ticket from an Abellio Greater Anglia station to "H443 ANY DUTCH STATION" then do i just show my ordinary orange card stock issued Sailrail ticket to Guards and ticket barrier staff in the Netherlands? I presume i don't need anything else? Are they likely to be aware of these tickets? Also are they only valid on NS trains or can they be used on the many other private TOCs in the Netherlands as well?
• 6. Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations in the Netherlands? If so are they printed on ordinary NS ticket stock?
• 7. Can the Dover to Calais Sailrail tickets (the ones that include travel on Southeastern but not on trains in France) be purchased anywhere in Calais in France? If so what ticket stock is used in France? Also can i travel on the night time journeys if i bring my bike or are bicycle passengers still considered to be foot passengers?
• 8. Is there anywhere in the Isle Of Man and Orkney and Shetland where i can purchase Sailrail tickets? I know that these three islands don't really have railways (other than as tourist attractions on the IOM) but i am wondering if there is anywhere on these islands that sells them?
• 9. Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations (or onboard trains) in the Republic Of Ireland? If so are they printed on normal Irish Rail card sized ticket stock?
• 10.Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations (or onboard trains) in Northern Ireland? If so are they printed from bus ticket machines on bus ticket stock (just like all other NIR tickets)?
• 11. Can Sailrail tickets via Cairnryan be used on the train to and from Stranraer? Or can they only be used to and from Ayr? When using this ferry i would like to travel to and from Stranraer and then take the short local bus ride instead of using that coach service to and from Ayr so i am wondering if i will need to purchase other train tickets for this?
• 12. How familiar are staff with these tickets (at barriers and at ticket offices and onboard trains). I am talking about all staff (National Rail / Irish Rail / Northern Ireland Railways / Ferry Companies). Are these tickets well known? Are staff likely to give me problems?
I know some of these tickets are available online but i prefer to buy my tickets on the day in person using cash. My questions are also regarding the on the day normal "Standby" fares rather than the slightly cheaper "Advance" fares as this is more convenient for me.
Sorry for asking so many questions but there is such little information available online about these tickets. Any information would be hugely appreciated.
Unfortunately there seems to be such little information available about these tickets.
• 1. On the Sailrail tickets to and from Orkney and Shetland there appears to be four separate destinations as follows:
J200 KIRKWALL
J201 LERWICK
J206 STROMNESS
J207 KIRKWL V SCRBSTR
Can anyone advise the valid routes for each destination and what exactly is included in each destination and which ferries can be used for each of these four destinations. I notice that tickets to all four are sold as "Any Permitted" so i am wondering if there is a choice of routes. These tickets don't seem very clear.
• 2. For all Sailrail journeys the Holyhead route seems to have four different options which are all slightly different prices as follows:
00980 ✠ HLYHD IRISHF CIV
00983 ✠ HLYHD STENA CIV
00984 ✠ HOLYHD STENA SHP
01004 ✠ HLYHD SWIFT CIV
Can anyone advise what is the difference between the four options? What exactly does each of the four options include?
• 3. Are any Sailrail tickets available via the Rosslare/Pembroke, Larne/Cairnryan, Dublin/Liverpool, Belfast/Liverpool, ferries? I can't seem to find anything online so i assume they are not available but i just wanted to double check?
• 4. In the UK can Sailrail tickets be purchased onboard the train from the Guard? I notice that it says they are available from all ticket offices (which i believe print them on ordinary ticket stock) but there is nothing about purchasing them from the Guard? I may be travelling from unstaffed stations so i will need to do this. So hopefully this is possible.
• 5. If i buy a Sailrail ticket from an Abellio Greater Anglia station to "H443 ANY DUTCH STATION" then do i just show my ordinary orange card stock issued Sailrail ticket to Guards and ticket barrier staff in the Netherlands? I presume i don't need anything else? Are they likely to be aware of these tickets? Also are they only valid on NS trains or can they be used on the many other private TOCs in the Netherlands as well?
• 6. Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations in the Netherlands? If so are they printed on ordinary NS ticket stock?
• 7. Can the Dover to Calais Sailrail tickets (the ones that include travel on Southeastern but not on trains in France) be purchased anywhere in Calais in France? If so what ticket stock is used in France? Also can i travel on the night time journeys if i bring my bike or are bicycle passengers still considered to be foot passengers?
• 8. Is there anywhere in the Isle Of Man and Orkney and Shetland where i can purchase Sailrail tickets? I know that these three islands don't really have railways (other than as tourist attractions on the IOM) but i am wondering if there is anywhere on these islands that sells them?
• 9. Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations (or onboard trains) in the Republic Of Ireland? If so are they printed on normal Irish Rail card sized ticket stock?
• 10.Can Sailrail tickets be purchased at railway stations (or onboard trains) in Northern Ireland? If so are they printed from bus ticket machines on bus ticket stock (just like all other NIR tickets)?
• 11. Can Sailrail tickets via Cairnryan be used on the train to and from Stranraer? Or can they only be used to and from Ayr? When using this ferry i would like to travel to and from Stranraer and then take the short local bus ride instead of using that coach service to and from Ayr so i am wondering if i will need to purchase other train tickets for this?
• 12. How familiar are staff with these tickets (at barriers and at ticket offices and onboard trains). I am talking about all staff (National Rail / Irish Rail / Northern Ireland Railways / Ferry Companies). Are these tickets well known? Are staff likely to give me problems?
I know some of these tickets are available online but i prefer to buy my tickets on the day in person using cash. My questions are also regarding the on the day normal "Standby" fares rather than the slightly cheaper "Advance" fares as this is more convenient for me.
Sorry for asking so many questions but there is such little information available online about these tickets. Any information would be hugely appreciated.