Spot on!As an enthusiast, I am just so grateful that Real-time Trains provides such a vast amount of information, thank you
Spot on!As an enthusiast, I am just so grateful that Real-time Trains provides such a vast amount of information, thank you
Because we haven't decided to do so yet.
The exact wording we used was "we will not be releasing train allocations at present due to the current coronavirus restrictions" - while I can see why you would read that the moment we come out it'd result in allocations being available, it doesn't.
I am led to believe that c2c is in general quite busy at the moment and it doesn't really seem right to incentivise the idea of making their trains any busier than necessary at the moment. They'll come, don't worry, but not yet.
Social distancing means that the available capacity of rolling stock is reduced. They have a number of services which could be considered a problem about in terms of how busy they are after applying that capacity factor reduction - 30-40% passengers on a train could mean anything from 60-120% load of 'covid capacity' these days depending on the rolling stock.
Ultimately, it is a joint decision between RTT and c2c when numbers become available - do bear in mind it took a good two months from memory for LNER to go live. Essentially, both c2c and I have to be comfortable with it.
We have already delivered the primary functionality in our eyes which is the primary benefit for the travelling public. Sticky digits will come at some point, patience is a virtue - bear in mind this time last year the entire concept of any numbers being public was laughed upon.
I don't wish to get drawn any further into this discussion as it'll just end up being rather circular.
40% of capacity for a morning peak service that is normally full and standing will still violate social distancing... I can certainly understand why c2c would not wish to encourage unnecessary journeys.But the trains are empty at the moment, only carrying 30-40% of passengers. So I don't see the logic in your reasoning?
I have to concur that Realtime Trains is a great site.The Realtime Trains website is a brilliant website. I really do appreciate all of the vast information that is shown.
Thank you
Kemal Ali
We’re pleased to welcome South Western Railway as our latest partner for Know Your Train, who become the seventh train operator to support the service.
South Western Railway operate train services from London Waterloo to suburban and regional destinations. They also operate the Island Line which operates train services on the Isle of Wight from Ryde to Shanklin.
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You can now find the latest information on the rolling stock running on your train service on the day on all South Western Railway and Island Line services, including what facilities what will be available.
We’ve added a new onboard entertainment facility which is identified with a new film icon: much of South Western Railway’s longer distance fleet is fitted with free-to-use on-board entertainment.
Know Your Train is now available on over a third of all train services covering over 2 million miles every week across all seven train operators.
Yes, well done Tom and thank you for all your work.This site just gets better and better.
Well done Tom.
On the units they have, but SWR have not renumbered them on the system.The modified class 450/5 unit numbers are showing although they have since reverted back to their original number.
Indeed thank you, the ability to see allocations has been longed for by many for years, it’s amazing now we have themYes, well done Tom and thank you for all your work.
I wonder if one day we'll have a 'full house'?
Seeing that the 159's have the first class line on the image time sure it will be possible. Although I think it is normally at the London end of the train on the 444's. For the wheelchair space on the 450's they are in the center of the train under the pantograph well.Great to see the SWR data available and being displayed.
Couple of queries,
Is it possible to display the coach type? I.e. on a 444, which has first class and on both 444/440 which is the coach that takes wheelchairs?
I’d love to see SouthEastern join, or perhaps Greater AngliaWill any more TOCs join RTT before the New Year? Good on SWR for doing so especially after the new year when people slowly return to office. RTT is very well known nowadays.
Depends who you talk to really. Rail enthusiasts and the industry, yes definitely, but the general travelling public not so much. This is why I'm surprised some TOCs are handing this info over but not adopting it on their own journey planners, so that "non-RTT" users can still benefit.RTT is very well known nowadays.
Depends who you talk to really. Rail enthusiasts and the industry, yes definitely, but the general travelling public not so much. This is why I'm surprised some TOCs are handing this info over but not adopting it on their own journey planners, so that "non-RTT" users can still benefit.
The industry need to get over themselves a little bit on this one. The data is there and it is being done. If RTT stopped advertising platforms, and I have been asked many times to stop doing it by various parties, then someone else would do it - it's literally the definition of Hydra. They've also asked me to suppress platforms until they're released onto Darwin which is a no because (1) I can't as I'm not permitted to use Darwin under its licensing clauses, (2) see previous Hydra reason and (3) they frequently fully suppress platforms on apps anyway which is not helpful to the customer.There’s still the issue that the industry remains a little cagey about things like platform allocations being completely open season. Firstly as at some places they may suppress them of departure boards to allow things like preparation or cleaning to occur, but also because the information still needs to be interpreted with some degree of inside knowledge, as things like unit swaps can happen.
I have walked around various station concourses at termini in the evening peaks and the number of people using RTT has genuinely shocked me. In May 2019, I was at Euston at about 1720 and had a brief walk around. I'd say 60% of people had RTT up. Have problems occurred? Yes, a few minor ones and the more experienced are learning. Because it's spread by word of mouth, this is less of an issue as people can explain how to use it. Know Your Train, or more specifically the allocations underneath it, allow the system to be a bit more intelligent about when it indicates platforms as it can track units around and that will come some point next year.If you had joe public using a specialist site for everyday purposes then there’s going to be problems.
Simply put, industry moves slowly. I move very quickly. Some TOCs are working on it, and I'm assisting with it, but it's better to have it out there to some degree rather than not at all until it can be in multiple channels.This is why I'm surprised some TOCs are handing this info over but not adopting it on their own journey planners, so that "non-RTT" users can still benefit.
That’s not too unusual. I’ve also seen theoretically impossible numbers on SWT/SWT station PIS displays, such as 13 coaches, often enough that it’s not much of a surprise. I expect RTT will simply copy it across if thats what’s in the data stream...I did see a SWR service to Poole advertised as having fifteen coaches today