Remaining GWR HST Diagrams

[nat67]

Thanks as always for the details - I'm very tempted by that Carmarthen run on the Sunday seeing as I can't make the Flying Banana tour. It's a shame there's only one starting from Paignton and not any going to Paignton though, I'd love to do that run on an HST for the first and last time.

We're in the penultimate week of HST's now

What Flying Bannana Tour?

 

[Peter C]

What Flying Bannana Tour?

The Flying Banana tour is the name being given to the railtour which is being run by GWR on Saturday 1st of June to mark the end of the HSTs on the GWML. Yes, it's a while after the last ones leave Paddington in regular service, but it will be quite the event as it will run around all of the lines which are served by HSTs. It is called the Flying Banana because when the HSTs were introduced the yellow ends were a lot more obvious and apparently they had that nickname, which is now used for the Network Rail New Measurement Train.

-Peter

EDIT: Tickets went on sale at the Long Rock Depot Open Day and I think that they have sold out. They were really expensive, even though it was a long journey, and I'm sure people will be selling them online for a lot more than the original price!

 

[Mag_seven]

The Flying Banana tour is the name being given to the railtour which is being run by GWR on Saturday 1st of June to mark the end of the HSTs on the GWML. Yes, it's a while after the last ones leave Paddington in regular service, but it will be quite the event as it will run around all of the lines which are served by HSTs. It is called the Flying Banana because when the HSTs were introduced the yellow ends were a lot more obvious and apparently they had that nickname, which is now used for the Network Rail New Measurement Train.

-Peter

EDIT: Tickets went on sale at the Long Rock Depot Open Day and I think that they have sold out. They were really expensive, even though it was a long journey, and I'm sure people will be selling them online for a lot more than the original price!

I wonder if GWR IETs will be nicknamed "Flying Cucumbers".

 

[Peter C]

I wonder if GWR IETs will be nicknamed "Flying Cucumbers".

Ha! I seem to remember hearing about them already having the nickname of "Cucumbers", so that's always a possibility! Just not sure about the yellow ends and how they add to the cucumber aspect though... maybe they've all gone off!...



-Peter

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Weekend 11th & 12th May:

Sat 11/05:
1. 1A15 > 1C16 > 1A24 > 1C92
2. 1A75 > 1C77 > 1A94 > 1C33
3. 1A80 > 1C85

Sun 12/05:
1. 1A83 > 1C89
2. 1A85 > 1C92
3. 1A10 > 1B28 > 1L90 > 1C33

The empties for 1A10 on Sunday is now STP’d to come ECS from Stoke Gifford so thinking something may have changed there?

 

[nat67]

The Flying Banana tour is the name being given to the railtour which is being run by GWR on Saturday 1st of June to mark the end of the HSTs on the GWML. Yes, it's a while after the last ones leave Paddington in regular service, but it will be quite the event as it will run around all of the lines which are served by HSTs. It is called the Flying Banana because when the HSTs were introduced the yellow ends were a lot more obvious and apparently they had that nickname, which is now used for the Network Rail New Measurement Train.

-Peter

EDIT: Tickets went on sale at the Long Rock Depot Open Day and I think that they have sold out. They were really expensive, even though it was a long journey, and I'm sure people will be selling them online for a lot more than the original price!

Thanks I wasn't sure if the actual NMT power cars were having something to do with it. I would definitely be there if 43013/014 or 062 was there.

 

[JonathanH]

The empties for 1A10 on Sunday is now STP’d to come ECS from Stoke Gifford so thinking something may have changed there?

It may simply be that the STPs aren't finalised.

5C33 is still shown as going to Stoke Gifford after 1C33 on the Saturday night.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C49524/2019/05/12/advanced

The platforms at Paddington don't match up on RTT either. As FGW_DID has pointed out in the past the data in the open data feed isn't infallible.

 

[JonathanH]

It's a shame there's only one starting from Paignton and not any going to Paignton though, I'd love to do that run on an HST for the first and last time.

Still the opportunity to go into Paignton and out on Summer Saturdays by HST for a while albeit not with GWR - just need to travel from Leeds instead.

1V44 0611 Leeds to Paignton
1S51 1233 Paignton to Glasgow Central

1V52 0601 Glasgow Central to Paignton
1E67 1640 Paignton to Leeds

 

[Peter C]

Thanks I wasn't sure if the actual NMT power cars were having something to do with it. I would definitely be there if 43013/014 or 062 was there.

You are very welcome. I think that it would be nice if the NMT power cars were running it, but as this is a GWR railtour it is sadly very much not possible. If that makes any sense.

-Peter

 

[duffield]

You are very welcome. I think that it would be nice if the NMT power cars were running it, but as this is a GWR railtour it is sadly very much not possible. If that makes any sense.

-Peter

Going offtopic a bit, when the NMT is not in 'real' use or under maintenance (if such a time exists, possibly not!), NR should try using it for high-price small number railtours. I have a feeling that a small but significant number of people would pay £1000+ for an all-day NMT railtour which involved demonstrating the technology onboard. (And yes, in case it's not bleedin' obvious, I would be tempted - even at that price). It might not be viable because it would probably have to be a very small closely supervised party though. (Actually thinking about it I might pay £2000, though that might be the bank holiday drink talking!)

The closest I've got to the NMT so far is an inspection from outside when it was stopped on P3 at Nottingham last year (or was it the year before?) and seeing it go through Beeston with all the laser gear active - like an alien invasion, it was.

Anyhow, when the NMT finally gets replaced, they should definitely do some 'farewell tours'.

 

[nat67]

Going offtopic a bit, when the NMT is not in 'real' use or under maintenance (if such a time exists, possibly not!), NR should try using it for high-price small number railtours. I have a feeling that a small but significant number of people would pay £1000+ for an all-day NMT railtour which involved demonstrating the technology onboard. (And yes, in case it's not bleedin' obvious, I would be tempted - even at that price). It might not be viable because it would probably have to be a very small closely supervised party though. (Actually thinking about it I might pay £2000, though that might be the bank holiday drink talking!)

The closest I've got to the NMT so far is an inspection from outside when it was stopped on P3 at Nottingham last year (or was it the year before?) and seeing it go through Beeston with all the laser gear active - like an alien invasion, it was.

Anyhow, when the NMT finally gets replaced, they should definitely do some 'farewell tours'.

I have cabbed 43062 at Rugby. Maybe NR and EMT could sort out a railtour from Derby on a Saturday. It sounds a bit far fetched but I know a few people in mind would like some of these power cars for haulage.

 

[FGW_DID]

The empties for 1A10 on Sunday is now STP’d to come ECS from Stoke Gifford so thinking something may have changed there?

RTT is showing that as a VAR schedule not STP.

It may simply be that the STPs aren't finalised.

5C33 is still shown as going to Stoke Gifford after 1C33 on the Saturday night.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C49524/2019/05/12/advanced

The platforms at Paddington don't match up on RTT either. As FGW_DID has pointed out in the past the data in the open data feed isn't infallible.

The diagrams and workings posted are from the finalised STP diagrams. I haven’t seen any amendments posted out but not to say they may appear after the Bank Holiday.

 

[Bringback309s]

Sorry - without hauling through older posts - are there any more HST diagrams to or from Penzance to Paddington? The 18th May seems to be Exeter only

 

[Mag_seven]

Sorry - without hauling through older posts - are there any more HST diagrams to or from Penzance to Paddington? The 18th May seems to be Exeter only

Yes there are M-F:

Mondays to Fridays
Valid until Friday 17th May 2019

IW1

1A71 04.51 Plymouth – Paddington
1C74 09.03 Paddington – Plymouth
1A87 12.55 Plymouth – Paddington
1C90 17.03 Paddington – Penzance

IW3

1A79 06.47 Penzance – Paddington
1C82 13.03 Paddington – Plymouth
1A96 16.57 Plymouth – Paddington
1C98 21.03 Paddington – Plymouth

IW5

1A81 07.41 Penzance – Paddington
1C84 14.03 Paddington – Penzance

 

[43096]

I have cabbed 43062 at Rugby. Maybe NR and EMT could sort out a railtour from Derby on a Saturday. It sounds a bit far fetched but I know a few people in mind would like some of these power cars for haulage.

It’s very very very unlikely to happen. Obviously it’s not impossible but the impending (well, maybe!) change of management at East Mids makes it much less likely than the very remote chance there was before.

 

[nat67]

It’s very very very unlikely to happen. Obviously it’s not impossible but the impending (well, maybe!) change of management at East Mids makes it much less likely than the very remote chance there was before.

Maybe a possibility for the 125 group to have a pair for the weekend with 41001.

 

[43096]

Maybe a possibility for the 125 group to have a pair for the weekend with 41001.

Equally unlikely: the NMT is intensively used, so any downtime is for maintenance.

 

[nat67]

Equally unlikely: the NMT is intensively used, so any downtime is for maintenance.

Not a chance if it was at Derby for the weekend. Do they keep the spare power car at RTC now or is it still kept at Craigentinny?

 

[JonathanH]

The diagrams and workings posted are from the finalised STP diagrams. I haven’t seen any amendments posted out but not to say they may appear after the Bank Holiday.

Sorry, I was trying to infer that the finalised STPs you refer to had not yet made it into the open data feeds.

 

[Peter C]

Would it be a good idea for me to make a separate thread for the New Measurement Train?

-Peter

 

[QuestRail]

What Flying Bannana Tour?

The Flying Banana tour is the name being given to the railtour which is being run by GWR on Saturday 1st of June to mark the end of the HSTs on the GWML. Yes, it's a while after the last ones leave Paddington in regular service, but it will be quite the event as it will run around all of the lines which are served by HSTs. It is called the Flying Banana because when the HSTs were introduced the yellow ends were a lot more obvious and apparently they had that nickname, which is now used for the Network Rail New Measurement Train.

-Peter

EDIT: Tickets went on sale at the Long Rock Depot Open Day and I think that they have sold out. They were really expensive, even though it was a long journey, and I'm sure people will be selling them online for a lot more than the original price!

Plenty of tickets still available at https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-flying-banana-tickets-59925300186 by the looks of it I'd have gone, but I'm going to be out until the early hours the night before, which might make that 5:30am start might be a struggle

 

[spark001uk]

The Flying Banana tour is the name being given to the railtour which is being run by GWR on Saturday 1st of June to mark the end of the HSTs on the GWML. Yes, it's a while after the last ones leave Paddington in regular service, but it will be quite the event as it will run around all of the lines which are served by HSTs. It is called the Flying Banana because when the HSTs were introduced the yellow ends were a lot more obvious and apparently they had that nickname, which is now used for the Network Rail New Measurement Train.

-Peter

EDIT: Tickets went on sale at the Long Rock Depot Open Day and I think that they have sold out. They were really expensive, even though it was a long journey, and I'm sure people will be selling them online for a lot more than the original price!

Looking on the booking site, there do still appear to be standard class tickets on general sale. As for resale, the tickets are named and holders will be required to provide photo ID on the day.

 

[Mark Webster]

Sorry - without hauling through older posts - are there any more HST diagrams to or from Penzance to Paddington? The 18th May seems to be Exeter only

Yes 4 diagrams on may 18th
1a10 Exeter- padd
One from Plymouth
0645 Bristol-padd
One from penzance.

 

[GWHST107]

Would anyone be able to tell me whether the final GWR HST service on the 18th is 1C26 1830 or 1Z26 1832 (as I've heard there may have been alterations) and also whether the service is to be extended to Exeter as the GWR site suggests, in spite of the RTT service info that suggests otherwise. Thanks in advance

Edit - Having looked again at RTT, it would appear that 1Z43 2132 is the Exeter extension of 1C26, however neither GWR bookings nor the Trainline seem to allow you to both arrive into and depart Taunton on the HST service.

The final passenger working link on Rail Record is the source for the aforementioned potential alteration as it shows 1Z26 rather than 1C26. (https://www.rail-record.co.uk/final-gwr-hst-gwml-service-confirmed-for-18th-may-2019/)

 

[Mark Webster]

1830 Is hst
1832 isn't a hst!!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Would anyone be able to tell me whether the final GWR HST service on the 18th is 1C26 1830 or 1Z26 1832 (as I've heard there may have been alterations) and also whether the service is to be extended to Exeter as the GWR site suggests, in spite of the RTT service info that suggests otherwise. Thanks in advance

The 18.32 is an IET isn't it? The 18.30 is the final HST out of Paddington - and it's reservation only.

 

[Mainline421]

Edit - Having looked again at RTT, it would appear that 1Z43 2132 is the Exeter extension of 1C26, however neither GWR bookings nor the Trainline seem to allow you to both arrive into and depart Taunton on the HST service.

The final passenger working link on Rail Record is the source for the aforementioned potential alteration as it shows 1Z26 rather than 1C26. (https://www.rail-record.co.uk/final-gwr-hst-gwml-service-confirmed-for-18th-may-2019/)

I just checked this on GWR.com and amusingly it immediately guessed what I was doing and produced this message. (I've already reserved a seat at a ticket office). Obiligitary warning not to ever use Trainline as every ticket they sell without exception can be purchased without any fees elsewhere and EMT & Greater Anglia have the same layout.

 

[Peter C]

Plenty of tickets still available at https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-flying-banana-tickets-59925300186 by the looks of it I'd have gone, but I'm going to be out until the early hours the night before, which might make that 5:30am start might be a struggle

Oh dear! I'm not going on it either, but I'll try and get out to see it go through one of my local stations.

-Peter

 

[FGW_DID]

SX diagrams for the final week (13/05 - 17/05):

1. MO 1A70 MSX 1A71 > 1C74 > 1A87 > 1C90

2. FSX 1A81 > 1C84. FO 1A81 > 1B42 > 1L82 > 1C28

3. 1A79 > 1C82 > 1A96 > 1C98

 

[HamworthyGoods]

SX diagrams for the final week (13/05 - 17/05):

1. MO 1A70 MSX 1A71 > 1C74 > 1A87 > 1C90

2. FSX 1A81 > 1C84. FO 1A81 > 1B42 > 1L82 > 1C98

3. 1A79 > 1C82 > 1A96 > 1C98

Diagram 2 on FO appears after 1B42 to work 1C28 19.30 Paddington to Weston.