Remaining GWR HST Diagrams

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  1. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    Now that the IET introduction is reaching its climax, I thought I'd post a list of remaining HST diagrams, to make it much easier than trawling through the IET diagram list.

    Monday - Friday only:

    Cheltenham Spa:

    0630 CNM - PAD 0842
    0936 PAD - CNM 1152
    1236 CNM - PAD 1445
    1536 PAD - CNM 1752
    1833 CNM - PAD 2042
    1736 PAD - CNM 1952^
    1936 PAD - CNM 2152
    2036 CNM - PAD


    Bristol TM & Extensions:

    0628 EXD - PAD 0942 (via WSM & BRI)
    0900 PAD - BRI 1042
    1030 PAD - WSM 1229
    1100 PAD - BRI 1243
    1130 BRI - PAD 1312
    1300 BRI - PAD 1437
    1330 PAD - BRI
    1330 WSM - PAD 1548
    1430 PAD - WSM 1650*
    1530 PAD - WSM 1750 - now a 9 car 800 from what I've seen
    1600 BRI - PAD
    1710 WSM - PAD 1913*
    1808 WSM - PAD 2014 - now a 9 car 800 from what I've seen
    1930 WSM - PAD@


    South Wales:

    0559 SWA - PAD 0855
    0659 SWA - PAD 0955
    0915 PAD - CDF 1128*
    0945 PAD - SWA 1248*
    1156 CDF - PAD 1407*
    1321 SWA - PAD 1629*
    1515 PAD - CDF 1723
    1756 CDF - PAD 2001
    2100 PAD - SWA 0112

    Oxford & North Cotswolds

    0512 PAD - MIM#
    0642 HFD - PAD 0945
    0710 MIM - PAD#
    0821 PAD - HFD 1138
    0921 PAD - WOF#
    1022 PAD - HFD 1347
    0950 PAD - OXF 1049*
    1200 WOF - PAD#
    1201 OXF - PAD 1257
    1209 HFD - PAD 1527
    1221 PAD - WOS 1430*
    1322 PAD - WOF 1541*
    1522 PAD - GMV#
    1551 WOF - PAD 1759
    1514 HFD - PAD 1827
    1522 WOS - PAD 1729*
    1552 PAD - MIM 1726
    1738 MIM - PAD 1903
    1722 PAD - HFD∆
    1752 PAD - WOS#
    1822 PAD - HFD
    1834 GMV - PAD#
    1852 PAD - OXF 1943
    1922 PAD - HFD 2250
    2022 PAD - GMV 2247
    2031 OXF - PAD
    2059 WOS - PAD#
    2151 HFD - PAD

    Berks & Hants:

    All booked HST

    Except:

    0553 PLY - PAD

    0730 PAD - PNZ


    Saturday only:
    0818 PAD - PGN and return is a 9 car 800

    *changes on 2nd July - still HSTs as of August 2018
    +changes on 16th July - still HSTs as of August 2018
    #temporary diagrams starting from the 21/05 until late June, covering for IET unavailability - still HSTs as of August 2018
    @could be an IET during Newbury blockades
    ∆Was supposed to be an 800, but now HST until the Hereford issues are sorted out
    ^IET until they are cleared to Hereford
     
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  3. fishquinn

    fishquinn Established Member Quizmaster

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    Many thanks for this. I assume weekends (provided engineering works don't affect things) are the same?
     
  4. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    No, these are just M-F at the moment.
     
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    Thanks for this as l am in South Wales and was not sure what to expect.

    Is there any HSTs going to Landore Tmd anymore to overnight?
     
  6. jimm

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    We're a bit of a way off a climax yet - with the last few five-car 800s, all 21 nine-car 800s and 36 assorted Class 802s yet to enter service.

    Also, as of next week's timetable change, there will be HSTs going back on the following jobs until late June, when IETs take over, either in place of Turbos or as short-term stand-ins for IETs while diagrams are juggled to make most effective use of what's available. A Turbo will also be going on the 11.22 Paddington-Worcester and 13.55 return next week instead of an IET for a while.

    05.12 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh / 07.10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington
    09.21 Paddington to Worcester / 12.00 Worcester to Paddington
    15.22 Paddington to Great Malvern / 18.34 Great Malvern to Paddington
    17.52 Paddington to Worcester / 20.59 Worcester to Paddington

    I'm afraid I don't know how what other services the diagrams covering these may involve.
     
  7. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    Well, the diagrams from Bristol/Cardiff/Swansea feel very thin on the ground.
    I'd imagine the rest of the IETs will be introduced quite a bit quicker than the intial batch.

    Thanks for those interim diagrams
     
  8. 700007

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    Wow I must be really lucky because I thought there were still loads of HSTs around. I always seem to get them, and I always seem to spot them. It's catching a Hitachi that is an impossible mission for me but surely that's a good thing according to most people's verdict!
     
  9. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    There are still a lot of HSTs, but not very many on the Bristol & South Wales services
     
  10. Class 33

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    There appears to be at least a couple of workings not in that list, either that or they're missing from the latest IET Diagrams posted. I was looking at booking either the 0900 or 0930 service from London Paddington-Bristol Temple Meads on a Monday in July. Was hoping they would be an IET, but it doesn't look like as these are not listed on the IET diagrams. And they're not in this HST list either. Can anyone please confirm if these services are HST's or IET's?
     
  11. cactustwirly

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    I haven't had the time to go through all the diagrams.
    I've updated the list with the 0900, which is a HST
    The 0930 appears to be an IET
     
  12. Class 33

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    Cheers. I'll book the 0930 to get a journey on an IET back home, even if it means waiting about a bit longer at Paddington than I intended.
     
  13. CC 72100

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    @cactustwirly

    Have you picked this week to work what is HST and what is IET? Unfortunately this week the turns are different (for example, only one of 1430 and 1530 PAD - WSM is normally HST) due to the Pewsey blockade.

    If so, a day next week would give a more accurate reflection.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, and to do my pet hate of saying something is wrong/suspected to be wrong but without offering a correction or suggestion!
     
  14. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    A bit of both.
    I'll double check now
    Do you know any more HST diagrams?
     
  15. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    They both look like HST diagrams.
    The 1430 starts at Swansea, but finishes at Worcester via Swindon
    The 1530's diagram is formed from an ECS from Laira
     
  16. CC 72100

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    13:30 Pad - Bristol / 16:00 Bristol - Pad

    19:12 Pad - Bristol

    19:30 Pad - WSM is an IET this week but is normally a HST.

    That's what I'm getting at; this week won't give you an accurate picture. Sorry :(
     
  17. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    Thanks I'll add those to the list
     
  18. CC 72100

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    No worries - I'd honestly wait until next week though and do a proper, clean job of it. I think it's a very good idea though as many members (like myself) will be looking to go for trains that are HSTs.
     
  19. Levente_BP

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    Can anyone confirm if the summer Saturday services to Pembroke will be HSTs or IETs? Thanks
     
  20. PHILIPE

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    Will be HSTs
     
  21. GW43125

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    IETs aren't cleared beyond Carmarthen due to clearance issues (they're 26m vehicles as opposed to mk3s which are 23m)
     
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    Early days, but can anyone confirm the diagrams from the start of the new timetable today with respect to the Worcester/Hereford route?

    Thanks in advance,

    Nic
     
  23. nat67

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    Have a look at the top of the thread from what Cactustwirly has wrote it lists all Cotwolds HST services.
     
  24. nicjoynson

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    I did see these but I also see repeated messages that say 'wait until after the timetable change to be sure'.

    I'm intrigued that the lists imply 1P18 0642 Hereford to Paddington is an IET which I think makes it the only IEP on the Malvern-Hereford section.

    Nic
     
  25. cactustwirly

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    Sorry the 0642 is actually a HST for the time being.
    Must have slipped through the net, I haven't had the time to check all the diagrams.
    Treat this list as a list of definate HSTs, rather than what is an IEP (use the other thread for that, for the time being)

    26th June is the date for the next set of IET diagrams.

    If anyone has any other HST diagrams that aren't on the list then please feel free to PM, and I'll update the list.
     
  26. Mitchell Hurd

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    The news of these diagrams mostly going to IET operation is exciting...

    ...until we start having more staff shortage problems, especially on the Devon & Cornwalls when these routes go to IET operation!
     
  27. cactustwirly

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    If you want to do HST bashing now is the time!
    Had a look in August and there appears to be only 1 HST diagram on the Cotswolds line.
     
  28. Mag_seven

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    Currently enjoying some HST action on GWR this week with the West of England diverts via Melksham or Bristol. :)
     
  29. cactustwirly

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    Diagrams have been updated since the 9 car 800s are being introduced on the Cheltenham route on Monday
     
  30. DanTrain

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    What’s going on in the South West, is it all HSTs down to Plymouth/ Penzance/ Paignton/ Newquay still?
     
  31. cactustwirly

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    Yes until the middle of July
     

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