I see your point there, sooner we're rid of the lot of them the better. But does anyone have any thoughts on who might do the job any better than Sunak? I'm inclined to think the fundamental conflicts that have grown and festered within the party over the past decade make it fundamentally unmanageable, whoever tries to do so.
Same here. He's always come across to me as the best of a bad bunch. And, unlike a lot of the others, he at least does a decent impression of someone who actually believe what he says and says what he believes.
I know that but I, and I'd imagine like many people, tend to vote for the person who represents the party I want in power. There's not really much to choose between candidates either.
Thats yet another thing us millenials have stopped doing. In both Britain and the US are by far the least conservative 35-year-olds in recorded history.
It's not so much the silent majority they're currently worrying about, than the noisy minority who are actively talking about ditching the Tories for Reform. They've admitted as much themselves that if Farage comes back and they don't make moves to attract those voters, it could be an extinction level result for the party. They've already abandoned the centre, and the overtures they make towards those voters to try and get them back just get rebuffed and incense the Reform lot, so they've neatly boxed themselves into a situation where they're reliant on a minority just to keep themselves going.
They seem to be scared of being outflanked by Reform. Hopefully the Wellingborough by-election will show that Reform is, at best, a 'third party'. Many traditional Conservatives are of the 'Living within their means' types who don't find the policies that the likes of Truss advocate at all in line with their values.
Exactly, which is why the Corbynistas need to keep their mouths shut. (I notice one or two still seem to think they have something to offer).
True - the Chopes, Fabricants, Redwoods and Swaynes have always been with us, tolerated by moderate Tories who could always say to a constituent that they could be in a worse position, but now it is moderates who are thin on the ground. Regarding the money-making, it is no longer that MPs have second jobs that is the problem, in too many cases being an MP is their 'second job'.
In some of those areas, principally Barnsley, the Brexit Party performed well last time round, so would be expected to do well.
I think it’s because politics has become like a sport, one team against the other. Non of them are working towards what they should be working towards….. the good of the country.
I also think that for the last 20 years or so people get incensed about what others say, not just about what they do. Marriages split because of differences of opinion over things like leaving the EU. My brother-in-law was in favour, my sister wasn't, but they seem to get on still, and I certainly don't fall out with my brother-in-law, we just laugh about our differences.
Yes, some of what Owen Jones says is spot on, but it gets obscured by all the spittle and hatred which accompanies it. A lot of what is says is complete tosh as well, mind you.
He has a good reputation in terms of ability to master a brief, run a department and get things done.
Indeed. For certain people it seems winning the argument is more important than whether the side that wins has the best answer.
It isn’t irrelevant. Gove had been working with Johnson so knew what he was like. Everyone who has ever worked with Johnson knows what he is like - utterly unfit for high office. There was nothing surprising about Johnson’s behaviour once he became PM.
Owen Jones always seem angry all the time and it's not healthy. JOB is similar as well.
I think there's a lot to be angry about at the minute, and very actively following politics isn't healthy for anybody. Whilst I don't consume a whole lot of either of them, I'd say that Owen Jones is angry and personally offended the whole time, and is quite often wrong, which is extremely grating. JOB is frustrated and on a mission, but holds it together better and is generally right.
Sorry, maybe I missed it, but who is “JOB”?
James O'Brien, mostly known for hosting a phone-in on LBC radio.
Many thanks!
