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Not sure that ten quid covers the cost, seems a bit perverse to drive to York mind, or if driving not to park in the suburbs and walk a whole mile

Many of us would be glad to pay for admission to the NRM, I suggest
 
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Not sure that ten quid covers the cost, seems a bit perverse to drive to York mind, or if driving not to park in the suburbs and walk a whole mile

Many of us would be glad to pay for admission to the NRM, I suggest

Cover the cost for the museum as a whole? Of course not. But 150-180 cars daily at a tenner to park on a barren concrete area that requires little to no maintenance will certainly provide a decent income stream.
 

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Plenty of the museums in London are national museums and obviously in case of railways, York. Should these national museums have reduced or free entry only for people living in London or York respectively?

As to earlier comments about charging a pound or two for admission or free for certain categories, this will require equipment, staffing and back office admin to operate.

Suppose the 'voluntary contribution' at entry system is easier to and extent and think the NRM and some others do already. Hopefully not like some cathedrals that almost make people guilty for not wanting to contribute and make it as hard as possible to enter without passing a pseudo ticket booth.

At the end of the day, museums are about education as well as fun, so just like we have free education up to age 18 in the UK, so major museums should also be government supported.

To those being made redundant, I hope you can all find new opportunities at these testing times. Best wishes.
Since national museums receive a significant proportion of their funding from the UK Government, UK tax payers are already contributing towards these institutions. If entry charges are introduced, all UK residents should be entitled to free or reduced entry.

With regard to donation boxes, when I worked at a large museum which attracted large numbers of non UK visitors, the average donation equated to 10p per visitor!
 

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Since national museums receive a significant proportion of their funding from the UK Government, UK tax payers are already contributing towards these institutions. If entry charges are introduced, all UK residents should be entitled to free or reduced entry.

With regard to donation boxes, when I worked at a large museum which attracted large numbers of non UK visitors, the average donation equated to 10p per visitor!

I'd agree that all UK residents should get free or reduced rate. Bit surprised that the 10p was quite so low but guess anyone will want free if they can.
 

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Several attractions charge for admission but then give unlimited entry for the rest of the year. London Transport Museum & York Minster are two that I have used frequently in the past. Just keep hold of your ticket.

I doubt I would visit NRM as often if I had to pay each time as I usually just pop in to the use the cafe and the viewing platform. Would happily pay a annual membership for unlimited visits if the price was reasonable.
 

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Several attractions charge for admission but then give unlimited entry for the rest of the year. London Transport Museum & York Minster are two that I have used frequently in the past. Just keep hold of your ticket.

The reason for this is that Gift Aid (tax relief) can be claimed on a "membership" but not a one-off entry.
 

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When I park in York, I strive to park here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...52a627422f71dc3!8m2!3d53.9615084!4d-1.1037746

It's much cheaper but is a longer but not too long of a walk into the station BUT not a lot of spaces. When I did park once, I had to do a 50 point turn as the last space was a corner and next to a Land Rover. Still worth it xD
I also do this, in the same car park. I know that paying £10/day to park isn't bad if you're also getting free entry as a family of say, 3 or 4. But as an individual it just feels like too much, especially if you know you're probably only going to be there a couple of hours at most, and cheaper parking is available nearby. I guess I don't blame the museum for doing it as it's a legitimate source of income, but I also exercise my right to choose to park further away, pay less and walk!

I have mixed feelings about the idea of charging for entry. I would be willing to pay for entry every time because I have the means, but others do not.

There is actually so little to do in the UK when the weather is bad - look on tripadvisor and most are shopping centres, expensive 'experiences' such as climbing walls etc, or musuems with a significant entry fee. If you are a family of 5 and the main breadwinner has recently lost their job (hypothetically for example due to, say, a global pandemic), having somewhere like this to take the kids and not to worry about having to pay £15/adult and £14/concession (as at 'The Deep' in Hull) would be such a blessing.

I do make a donation when I go, but I have to say that the last time I went, I felt quite pressured into making that 'voluntary' donation; that feels wrong to me. It's been a couple of years since I went but both the food choices and prices in the cafe weren't appealing.

I really hope sensible decisions are made with the redevelopment of the NRM. The artists impressions look good; I hope the way the space is used is wise as I feel that recently some of their re-organisation has diminished the appeal of the musem; especially the south end of the station hall. I'd also love to see Boxhill liberated from the education area and moved to somewhere where the majority of visitors can see it, and I'd love to see better representation of smaller locomotives, especially industruals. There is that lovely tiny shunter in the Great Hall, but that aside there's only 1247 which feels very much pushed in a corner of the station hall. Maybe engines from heritage lines which are out of ticket and awaiting overhaul could be displayed at the NRM for a period of time to add interest?
 

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Several attractions charge for admission but then give unlimited entry for the rest of the year. London Transport Museum & York Minster are two that I have used frequently in the past. Just keep hold of your ticket.

I doubt I would visit NRM as often if I had to pay each time as I usually just pop in to the use the cafe and the viewing platform. Would happily pay a annual membership for unlimited visits if the price was reasonable.

If we have to go to charging for entry, then this is a good idea as it still gives people the chance to dip in afterwards without being chinged multiple times.

I sometimes use the "search engine" library a few times a year and give a small donation each time, however one substantial charge for the year would also work for me.
 

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Don't forget how much revenue the larger museums have lost this year from being unable to host large corporate events, parties etc. The loss of an entire Christmas Party season could be the final nail.
 

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I also do this, in the same car park. I know that paying £10/day to park isn't bad if you're also getting free entry as a family of say, 3 or 4. But as an individual it just feels like too much, especially if you know you're probably only going to be there a couple of hours at most, and cheaper parking is available nearby. I guess I don't blame the museum for doing it as it's a legitimate source of income, but I also exercise my right to choose to park further away, pay less and walk!

I have mixed feelings about the idea of charging for entry. I would be willing to pay for entry every time because I have the means, but others do not.

There is actually so little to do in the UK when the weather is bad - look on tripadvisor and most are shopping centres, expensive 'experiences' such as climbing walls etc, or musuems with a significant entry fee. If you are a family of 5 and the main breadwinner has recently lost their job (hypothetically for example due to, say, a global pandemic), having somewhere like this to take the kids and not to worry about having to pay £15/adult and £14/concession (as at 'The Deep' in Hull) would be such a blessing.

I do make a donation when I go, but I have to say that the last time I went, I felt quite pressured into making that 'voluntary' donation; that feels wrong to me. It's been a couple of years since I went but both the food choices and prices in the cafe weren't appealing.

I really hope sensible decisions are made with the redevelopment of the NRM. The artists impressions look good; I hope the way the space is used is wise as I feel that recently some of their re-organisation has diminished the appeal of the musem; especially the south end of the station hall. I'd also love to see Boxhill liberated from the education area and moved to somewhere where the majority of visitors can see it, and I'd love to see better representation of smaller locomotives, especially industruals. There is that lovely tiny shunter in the Great Hall, but that aside there's only 1247 which feels very much pushed in a corner of the station hall. Maybe engines from heritage lines which are out of ticket and awaiting overhaul could be displayed at the NRM for a period of time to add interest?

Do you drive a Land Rover?
 

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