I never knew there was a depot in la la land as it seems most of the posters on here, bar 1, are based there.
Im going to keep this simple and it will be my last post on the subject matter.
Training with 2 in the cab, regardless of the protocols in place, should not be taking place. It breaks Scottish government guidance and will put at risk the health of the individuals involved. I understand the need for training to recommence but not at the expense of peoples health.
Thankfully at the depots I frequent dis and Dtms understand this and will not be putting their wellbeing and their loved ones at risk.
DIs DO NOT have to learn to live with this as training is OPTIONAL. If by some reason, which it won't and can't, be forced upon them I would imagine they would, en masse, hand their training passes back. That's how serious they are taking this. They are not cannon fodder. They DO NOT have to double up like the police force or aviation industry. They are drivers first, trainers second and could quit the role at any point with no consequences to them and I doubt they would miss the financial gains the role brings as it is a pittance.
The dis I know are a professional bunch who DO NOT cut corners so if you think they would do so in this instance then you are wrong.
This is the reality of the situation. Take it or leave it.
Are you sure you’re not both of the posters you say are not living in La La Land? Because to me it seems you’re very much in a minority.
Indeed it is optional. Unfortunately though, most DIs would probably object if the TOC said they were removing their DI status. Where I’m based, all of our DIs have agreed to participate.
We have to learn to live with this in general, for our own futures. Not solely work related.
The vast majority of people wouldn’t choose to spend 5 or 6 hours per day in a confined space, breathing the same air as a stranger in a pub/gym/cafe/shop or work so why do people expect train drivers to put up With this?
If the risk is so minimal why are parts of the country in lockdown again with the threat of more to come and second waves of this virus if social distancing isn’t maintained.
You won’t see any TOC or FOC management sharing a confined space with another person for 5 or 6 hours per day So it’s a bit rich asking train drivers to do it just so that trainees become productive and aren’t being paid for sitting on their arses in the house.
Anybody that seriously thinks that guys are going to risk catching COVID just so that trainees can get passed out are in for a shock, there will be some DIs and DTMs that do it but to think that training will resume at the normal rate is naive at best.
You only have to look at the statistics to see that although cases of Covid are up, hospitalisation and deaths are at the lowest they have been. Does this not indicate that we’re just generally getting on with it now and wash our hands/wear masks?
I don’t think anybody thinks or is suggesting that training will resume at the normal rate, but if we are constantly running scared from this virus, we will cripple the economy even more and there will be a lot more deaths than we’ve had from Covid, through suicide and illnesses going undiagnosed.
Anyway, I don’t even work for ScotRail

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