ikcdab
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ok, thanks for correcting that. But the same question remains, does this mean we can now see trains on traksy and, if so, when?
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The Railcam (and Freightmaster!) maps were fully updated to show the new data for train
movements and signal aspects west of Liskeard this morning - if anyone wants a 'sneak peak'
at the Freightmaster map of the area (seven days access free of charge), send me a PM...
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Traksy might get updated tomorrow. Depends if I have time and can figure out the details
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Live map of Taunton to Falmouth and Truro
See trains move in real-time on our live map of Taunton to Falmouth and Truro
www.opentraintimes.com
Showing on OTT now, thank you Open Train Times team!
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Shows that P3 at Truro is now fully bidirectional, with a new facing crossover being installed east of the station, replacing the previous trailing one.Live map of Taunton to Falmouth and Truro
See trains move in real-time on our live map of Taunton to Falmouth and Truro
Showing on OTT now, thank you Open Train Times team!
jyte
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Huh, I'm guessing Liskeard signal box is staying. Why did I think that was closing?
I think it's funny to think trains will go Plymouth PSB->Liskeard->Cornwall Workstation (at Exeter!)
I think it's funny to think trains will go Plymouth PSB->Liskeard->Cornwall Workstation (at Exeter!)
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If I'm correct the following are staying:
Penzance
St Erth
Roskear Junction
St Blazey
Goonbarrow Junction
Liskeard
We still have the lovely array of semaphores at St Erth to admire!
jyte
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It makes sense (to me, at least!) to keep Roskear as it's such a 'new' panel. I wonder if it's also a convenient interface between St Erth (bells/absolute block) and the new Cornwall workstation (axle counters/train description). Anyone know more?
I presume they do somewhere, but do any IECC workstations interface directly with lever frame/absolute block signalling? I would love to see what that looks like on a LCD monitor!
I presume they do somewhere, but do any IECC workstations interface directly with lever frame/absolute block signalling? I would love to see what that looks like on a LCD monitor!
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From April 2022 until last month Basingstoke ROC interfaced with Wokingham box.
The Puddock
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Edinburgh IECC workstation 7 fringes to mechanical boxes at Cupar and Hilton Junction, although the fringes are both Track Circuit Block.
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Actually, that was also true of Wokingham - mechanical, but track circuit block.
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There is no technical reason why an IECC can’t interface with a box working Absolute Block in the other direction. One possible reason is the life expectancy of the equipment: that at the recently closed boxes may have been near life-expired, while west Cornwall’s three boxes have a bit of life left in them so aren’t an urgent priority.
Additionally, at Roskear you have the nature of the roads at the level-crossings, which might place restrictions on what system replaces the box. Stray Park Road comes down at an angle and Carnarthen Street is round a blind corner.
I'm afraid the answer is "not particularly interesting", as this shot of the interface with Droitwich on the Stourbridge WS demonstrates: http://photos.signalling.org/picture?/16365/category/1546-2013_february
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Where an AB box interfaces with an IECC, the track circuits will start outside of the box so that the signalman sees the taillight as it passes the box and knows the train is complete when coming from the AB section. The most fundamental consideration. Otherwise, it is some form of direct communication to indicate train description and for emergency signals. (They have probably moved on from the clicking telephone dial train-describers and repurposed block bells that I used.)
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The Colwich workstation at Stoke SCC worked absolute block to Brereton Sidings signal box before it was closed, which is the only example of an IECC working AB that I know of. https://photos.signalling.org/picture?/12088/category/1183-colwich_desk
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Although that's a MCS workstation, not an IECC.
ikcdab
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What does Yeovil pen mill interface to? Thames valley?
Westbury, which is a pretty basic panel
I've done the first stage of the updates on traksy, which is the main line in cornwall. Still need to do Devon and Falmouth branch, but we're just getting towards Carlstad, and I've never been on the line between here and Stockholm before, so it's time to look out of the window...
DanHST
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Ah, would the general term for those sorts of signalling systems be VDU workstations?
Remember the signal aspects.
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The generic term is VSCS: VDU-based signalling control systems.
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Thanks!
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Westbury,Basingstoke and No Signalman Token to Maiden Newton.
Manchester East works AB to Dinting...
Most fringes to mechanical boxes are rather more mundane.
And of course Worksop to Elmton and Creswell/Shirebrook and various others!Manchester East works AB to Dinting...
Most fringes to mechanical boxes are rather more mundane.
I like the installations where they have ancient block instruments sat on a desk around a computer most
bishdunster
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Lets not forget Basingstoke panel and Corfe Castle !
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Leeds North-West Workstation (at York, controlling Skipton inter alia) fringes with Hellifield.
jyte
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See, this is what I'd expect them all to look like, I guess. Turns out they don't need to be as complex UX wise.Manchester East works AB to Dinting...
Most fringes to mechanical boxes are rather more mundane.
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Maiden Newton box closed in 1988 and the section from Yeovil became No Signalman Key Token supervised by Pen Mill and a variety of traincrew-operated Tokenless block thence to Dorchester, but supervised by Pen Mill. I am not sure if that is still the situation. I have a feeling that Dorchester South has remained, and still controls Weymouth and cooperates with Pen Mill, but I am not certain.
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