Islineclear3_1
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I won't name the location publicallyWas the Littlehampton by chance?
I won't name the location publicallyWas the Littlehampton by chance?
Crikey. Imagine if we all did that at Edinburgh or Glasgow Queen St/Central the delays would be horrific! Just about every other train is signalled with permissive working.If I receive a position light when being signalled into a platform I ring the signaller to confirm the available platform length for my unit. Every time.
If its a 12 car platform, and the calling on signal will clear if there's a 8 car or less in the platform, the driver should not be accepting the signal if they have 9 or more cars on. If they have more than 4 cars on, then a lot of drivers will query the calling on.You can't blame the driver. The purpose of a calling signal signal is to inform the driver the platform ahead is already occupied so drive the train to stop short of an obstruction.
Seems to me just an operating incident that you want to avoid but one of those things that occasionally happen. Of course when signallers could look at the box window and see what was going on they may have had better knowledge rather than sitting remotely in a front of a VDU.
But that’s just not realistic when it happens to us drivers who do it sometimes several times a day & for the poor signaller on the other end.If I receive a position light when being signalled into a platform I ring the signaller to confirm the available platform length for my unit. Every time.
Which is why Signallers frequently signal trains into empty platforms, preferring to leave trains queued up outside the station than use the platform space economicallyBut that’s just not realistic when it happens to us drivers who do it sometimes several times a day & for the poor signaller on the other end.
But that’s just not realistic when it happens to us drivers who do it sometimes several times a day & for the poor signaller on the other end.
Happened to me a few weeks ago & never heard another thing about it. It’s only I’d say the third time in 23 years I’ve been routed into a platform that I don’t fit. Only thing that annoyed me was it was my last bit of a long jog Grrrr!!I can understand that and I'll freely admit that it doesn't happen to me that often. However, whilst we have the culture of the driver basically taking a portion of the blame for pretty much every incident, I'll do what I need to do to cover my backside.....and if that creates a slight delay or annoys the signaller then so be it....
That's good to hear.Happened to me a few weeks ago & never heard another thing about it. It’s only I’d say the third time in 23 years I’ve been routed into a platform that I don’t fit. Only thing that annoyed me was it was my last bit of a long jog Grrrr!!
Which is why Signallers frequently signal trains into empty platforms, preferring to leave trains queued up outside the station than use the platform space economically
Yes, of course they do, even when there's a train in the platform that shouldn't be there according to the station dockerSignallers signal trains into the platform specified in the station docker, rather than on an ad hoc basis as takes their fancy.
Because everything always runs on time and as bookedYes, of course they do, even when there's a train in the platform that shouldn't be there according to the station docker
It depends on the scenario. If it’s a through service and they’ve been put on top of something the driver would have to take some responsibility.
It may not be realistic and at my toc it rarely, if ever happens but That is why we have been told to always contact the signaller to ask what is already occupying the platform.But that’s just not realistic when it happens to us drivers who do it sometimes several times a day & for the poor signaller on the other end.
100% agreeI can understand that and I'll freely admit that it doesn't happen to me that often. However, whilst we have the culture of the driver basically taking a portion of the blame for pretty much every incident, I'll do what I need to do to cover my backside.....and if that creates a slight delay or annoys the signaller then so be it....
It's also about minimising overall delay, for example by not trapping a train on the buffers by stacking a unit in front of it and causing a set swap at the last minute. When things have gone wrong, there isn't always a perfect answer.Yes, of course they do, even when there's a train in the platform that shouldn't be there according to the station docker
Because everything always runs on time and as booked
Yes, of course they do, even when there's a train in the platform that shouldn't be there according to the station docker
Because everything always runs on time and as booked
I suppose it's rather different if you work for LNER or Avanti than if you are a Southern driver for example.It may not be realistic and at my toc it rarely, if ever happens but That is why we have been told to always contact the signaller to ask what is already occupying the platform.