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37510 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC V N 21H A
37601 GROG DERBY RTC 575V941A09 V * LONGMSTON N 32H A
37608 GROG NCH CRNPT TMILSOWCS N TBRD 55H A
37611 GROG DERBY RTC 575V941A09 V * LONGMSTON N 42H A
37800 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N 31H A
37884 GROG WOSTER YD WOSTER YD F N 58H B
37418 LRLO DERBY RTC DERBY RTC C N 58H A
37901 EPUK DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F
Doesn't necessarily mean it'll be loco hauled or ROG operated. 313s can do the route fully on the 3rd rail, and GB has operated the also soon to be sold Network Rail 313 along this route on it's way from Eastleigh to Ferme Park on several occasions.Can't actually see any Rog locos at Wembley to work this unless someone knows better
You make good points but likely invalidated by the fact that a light engine comes down prior to the move, plus pathed as a Rog diesel timed load. Maybe future moves will do as you adviseDoesn't necessarily mean it'll be loco hauled or ROG operated. 313s can do the route fully on the 3rd rail, and GB has operated the also soon to be sold Network Rail 313 along this route on it's way from Eastleigh to Ferme Park on several occasions.
The path in the earlier link is via Kensington, North Pole, Willesden, Acton Wells etc, so isn’t going to be possible for a 313 in its DC only condition.Doesn't necessarily mean it'll be loco hauled or ROG operated. 313s can do the route fully on the 3rd rail, and GB has operated the also soon to be sold Network Rail 313 along this route on it's way from Eastleigh to Ferme Park on several occasions.
From Shepherd's Bush it changes to AC power, and the Dudding Hill line is completely unelectrified313s can do the route fully on the 3rd rail,
It's timed to run Fast Line from Windmill bridge jn and then run Slow line from Balham, so I presume the stop is waiting for the path across Balham Jn.Why does the move stop at Balham?
Why is it also recorded as going on the Slow Line, yet it is passing/stopping and Balham P.4 which is a Fast Line platform?
"If" it runs I guess the loco will be attached to the front facing Preston Park (i.e. right way to run up towards London as there is no loop nearer to turn it around)The path in the earlier link is via Kensington, North Pole, Willesden, Acton Wells etc, so isn’t going to be possible for a 313 in its DC only condition.
Does ask the question why they’d go via London rather than along the coast though…
Yes, the path appears to have been planned to avoid the need for a reversal."If" it runs I guess the loco will be attached to the front facing Preston Park (i.e. right way to run up towards London as there is no loop nearer to turn it around)
Surely you'd bring the 313 into Preston Park under it's own power and then drop the loco on the end if you were doing that? Yes you can reverse in either of 2/3 to get towards HoveAlthough possible I guess, rather inconvenient for it to detach and run around at Preston Park and reattach to the other end. Plus I don't know if there is a crossover to take it towards Hove
You'd think. Unless there's a VSTP to get a loco down.But if there's no loco at Wembley then it's gotta be a non-runner surely?
I'm fairly sure that the units can't move on their own anymoreSurely you'd bring the 313 into Preston Park under it's own power and then drop the loco on the end if you were doing that? Yes you can reverse in either of 2/3 to get towards Hove
Source?The Move was planned for tomorrow but won't be happening.
Presumably to pick up staff at South Acton?Is there something preventing the move from traversing along the West Coastway, instead of a perhaps more circuitous route via London?
Possibly driver knowledge? Can't imagine ROG do much along the coast.Is there something preventing the move from traversing along the West Coastway, instead of a perhaps more circuitous route via London?
I'm guessing more points failures at wivelsfield are due , had about 20 so far this week. Maybe thought it best to hold off a whileIs there something preventing the move from traversing along the West Coastway, instead of a perhaps more circuitous route via London?
Source?
Not necessarily if the leading 313 is in working order. It could be driven off the depot with the loco attached to the rear. (Or driven off depot separately and the loco dropped onto the rear, which is more awkward but less awkward than a runround.)The loco would need to run round on the Brighton mainline which is not ideal and operationally more of a headache.
None of the 3 are operational now mateNot necessarily if the leading 313 is in working order. It could be driven off the depot with the loco attached to the rear. (Or driven off depot separately and the loco dropped onto the rear, which is more awkward but less awkward than a runround.)
Apologies, I had it in my mind they were going along the coast. There's definitely been some fanciful stock moves over the last year or two, that's for sure.The path in the earlier link is via Kensington, North Pole, Willesden, Acton Wells etc, so isn’t going to be possible for a 313 in its DC only condition.
Does ask the question why they’d go via London rather than along the coast though…
No loco at Wembley at the moment so I would imagine this will be cancelled.Loco gen would be out there by now so must look forward to a scrapping for another day.
Two nice moves this week caped. What a shame. 4tc move via Brighton and now this. Shame.