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AlexanderPS

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Registrations in from Canavan for the 147 and 247. Not sure of its a typo for the 147 to have Glenmavis included or if they are rerouting it.

  • PM1135029/11 Registered​

    CANAVAN TRAVEL LIMITED
    Route: Monklands Hospital to Kirkintilloch or Cumbernauld via Condorrat, Westfield, Glenmavis
    Service number: 247
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 17 Jul 2022

  • PM1135029/10 Registered​

    CANAVAN TRAVEL LIMITED
    Route: Monklands Hospital to Kilsyth, Livingstone Park via Cumbernauld, Condorrat, Westfield, Glenmavis
    Service number: 147 (147A)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 17 Jul 2022
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AndrewTaylor95 said:
Interesting seeing First down for the 212 and Blue Bus back in the service game for the 47/A
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The 47/A has always been one for random operators to come and go.

Will have to see if they take it up though as the last time they were offered the 147/247 when McGill's pulled out they rejected it.

Canavan taking contracts is probably the shocker out of them all as they've been happy just running their own services for years, never at nights, Sundays or bank holidays which they are off the road.

They are also going back to accepting the ZoneCard, a few years since withdrawing from the scheme.
From Monday 30/5/22 Canavan Travel will be accepting Zonecards on all services.
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ARG are taking over the 205 from first

Bus registration details​

  • Registration numberPM2048209/7
  • Licence NumberPM2048209
  • Variation number0
  • StatusRegistered
  • Service number.205
  • Service typeNormal Stopping
  • Start pointHairmyres Hospital
  • Finish pointHamilton, Torr Farm
  • ViaBlantyre
  • Date received31 May 2022
  • Effective date17 Jul 2022
  • End date
  • Supported by subsidies?Yes
  • Local authorities covered by routeStrathclyde Partnership for Transport
  • TAOs covered by routeScotland

Registration history​

PM2048209/70RegisteredManual31 May 202217 Jul 2022
 
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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
AlexanderPS said:
Registrations in from Canavan for the 147 and 247. Not sure of its a typo for the 147 to have Glenmavis included or if they are rerouting it.
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Might this be a ruse from Canavan to attempt to get some newer previously used buses?

Their present fleet are the red single deckers that were once used in London, with the reg plates being from 2005-09.
 
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adrock1976 said:
Might this be a ruse from Canavan to attempt to get some newer previously used buses?

Their present fleet are the red single deckers that were once used in London, with the reg plates being from 2005-09.
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I don't see it that way. The likelihood is they're just trying to make up for lost revenue over the last few years.

And yes they have a tendency to buy ex-London E200s these days (although some have come from other places) and they'll probably be getting a few more for this.

At least they convert them to single door.
 
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Observer said:
I don't see it that way. The likelihood is they're just trying to make up for lost revenue over the last few years.

And yes they have a tendency to buy ex-London E200s these days (although some have come from other places) and they'll probably be getting a few more for this.

At least they convert them to single door.
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Canavan's buses aren't that bad. Some of the E200s they have are nippy too.
 
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Glasgowbusguy said:
Considering how busy the millport motors 320 is I am shocked it gets any support
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It's certainly a service that has commercial merit at many times of the year / day - it's only because of retirement that there's no longer competition! https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/49834607816

Stan Drews said:
I think the tender is just for some early/late journeys, particularly during the winter months.
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Yes; in the summer it's only the "late night Friday" return journey that's subsidised. This does however make it seem like quite an expensive subsidy compared to some of the others! The 578A is only slightly more expensive, but has a bus on the road for up to 9 hours a day 6 days a week!
 
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duffers2324 said:
They cant be as bad as Avondale surely with their fleet ;)
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Funnily enough they did buy a few Avondale E200s and converted them to single door afterwards.

Anything Canavan buys generally stays in the fleet for a good amount of years until it's time to replace.

They don't do what Avondale does and just buy another cheap Dart as soon as something goes bang.

McNairns appear to be taking on the 245 on a commercial basis:

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  • PM2002842/10 Cancelled​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Salsburgh, Carvale Avenue to Carnbroe, Drummore Avenue via Coatbridge Town Centre
    Service number: 16
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date:16 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/22 Registered​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Salsburgh Carvale Avenue to Carnbroe, Drummore Avenue via Chapelhall, Airdrie, Coatbridge
    Service number: 16 (16A)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 17 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/21 Registered​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Coatbridge South Circular Road to Moodiesburn, Gartferry Road
    Service number: 245
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 15 Aug 2022

  • PM2002842/20 Registered​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Caldercruix Dunbreck Avenue to Coatbridge South Circular Road via Airdrie
    Service number: 212B
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 15 Aug 2022

  • PM2002842/19 Registered​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Caldercruix Dunbreck Avenue to Coatbridge South Circular Road via Airdrie
    Service number: 212
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 17 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/18 Registered​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Carnbroe, Drummore Avenue to Townhead Terminus Lomond Road via Monklands, Coatbridge
    Service number: 117
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 17 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/12 Cancelled​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Caldercruix, Dumbreck Avenue to Shawhead, Dunottar Road via Monklands Hospital, Airdrie, Coatbridge
    Service number: 212
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 16 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/11 Cancelled​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Carnbroe, Drummore Avenue to Townhead, Lomond Road via Monklands Hospital
    Service number: 117
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 16 Jul 2022

  • PM2002842/13 Cancelled​

    MCNAIRN'S COACHES LTD.
    Route: Upperton Village to Monklands Hospital via Airdrie
    Service number: 101 (181)
    Service type: Normal Stopping
    Effective date: 16 Jul 2022
 
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gingerheid said:
It's certainly a service that has commercial merit at many times of the year / day - it's only because of retirement that there's no longer competition! https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/49834607816



Yes; in the summer it's only the "late night Friday" return journey that's subsidised. This does however make it seem like quite an expensive subsidy compared to some of the others! The 578A is only slightly more expensive, but has a bus on the road for up to 9 hours a day 6 days a week!
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Definitely seems really expensive since it's a 2 mile round trip and it's an owner driver operation from my understanding
 
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Does anyone know who’s taking on the First Glasgow journeys on the 230 and 299 from the SPT changes on 16/07/22? Thanks.
 
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gnolife said:
I think it's Johnstone that are running it.
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Inchinnan now run all the former Coatbridge routes, that weren’t up for tender, i.e. 64/164, 165, 312, 364, 374, as well as the ‘new’ routes 49, 124 & 153.
 
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Seems Canavan are having trouble keeping all their routes going due to their own SPT contracts it seems:

Canavan Travel

43 & 45 service Due to unforeseen circumstances, are having to operate as a 435 for the rest of this week. This will run to the same timetable as the Saturday 435 and to a frequency of 20 minutes.
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43 & 45 service
Due to unforeseen circumstances, are having to operate as a 435 for the rest of this week.
This will run to the same timetable as the Saturday 435 and to a frequency of 20 minutes.
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Unforeseen circumstances = having issues getting drivers to do them?
 
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I know this may be a little off topic but seeing as its SPT, does anyone know if SPT are still doing Daytripper tickets etc it appears they are no longer on the website although they still appear on the National rail site but with no info on prices or the map of validity.
 
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duffers2324 said:
I know this may be a little off topic but seeing as its SPT, does anyone know if SPT are still doing Daytripper tickets etc it appears they are no longer on the website although they still appear on the National rail site but with no info on prices or the map of validity.
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Daytripper is no longer. It got withdrawn.
 
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