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cainebj

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Why send the driver trainer out on Staff Shuttle eh?

Very short on vehicles. 3 Scania's off, few Darts off, 20962 hasn't been seen for a bit, 14234 is sat on death row, 52628 and 52635 not seen out and about either. 52628 would have probably been first choice on X5 instead of 20902 if it was available.

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Err...Wigley's? Fleetlink may have a few, and Ensign for the outside possibility. Given the amount of spares currently sat around, I can't see there being any future for them in Stagecoach.

Most will not be going anywhere until after the 2012 games
 

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Understandable I guess. Everything Euro4 and above is going? That's basically anything on an 05 plate or newer I believe.

Just one question Gez, where are we gonna store all these until then? :lol:
 

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15685, 22595, 22597 and 22610 on 300-302.
22608 was short 302, replaced by 47061.
16870, 20473, 20910, 20994 and 35246 on 30/31.
20902 normal X5's.
Trainer coach 52268 (RBZ 5459) doing some staff shuttles.

Although on a shortage of buses at the minute, they have probably used 52268 to use out of it! No new drivers want to come and drive for Distington Depot!
 

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That'll be a no then! One thing though, do Stagecoach still outstation buses in Bowness on Solway?

Not these days.
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15685, 22595, 22597 and 22610 on 300-302.
22608 was short 302, replaced by 47061.
16870, 20473, 20910, 20994 and 35246 on 30/31.
20902 normal X5's.
Trainer coach 52268 (RBZ 5459) doing some staff shuttles.

Why do Lillyhall always lack common sense when it comes to allocations? I have never known a depot get it wrong day after day. 4 Mans missing from 30/31 is a disgrace. The mind boggles how they do it.

52268 visits Carlisle every now and again to pick things up, have seen it a few times now.
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Me thinks the P-ESA's(20540,544,545,546 and 547) will go to kendal to replace the M regs.

Thought they would have went when the R/XVM got withdrawn at Lillyhall... Stagecoach North East are converting there ESA to driver trainers.......
 

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Very short on vehicles. 3 Scania's off, few Darts off, 20962 hasn't been seen for a bit, 14234 is sat on death row, 52628 and 52635 not seen out and about either. 52628 would have probably been first choice on X5 instead of 20902 if it was available.

Not forgetting everrrrrryones favourite 17017, also missing from 31 today... how long this time me wonders :roll:

All four 56-reg drats were in service on Friday, but 34616 is beginning to be a worry! Not heard of for 3 or 4 weeks now. As for 34218, if its in Workington, its alive! If not, its likely off service! (hopefully the latter!)

I haven't seen 20962 ever since it was puffing out huge plumes smoke whilst on Moorclose, towards the back end of April - if I'm not mistaken.
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....all we can do is replace things with MAN's and B10M's - which isn't ideal :lol:
 
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....all we can do is replace things with MAN's and B10M's - which isn't ideal :lol:

Not ideal at all, but not a lot can be done about it :(
Rather annoying that B10M's have to replace MANs so MANs can replace Scania's though. A B10M could always just replace a Scania, but I suppose the R-XVM's have a 3 speed Voith gearbox, and the MAN's have a 4 speed Voith gearbox. MAN's are, as much as it hurts me to say it, better for holding their speed than the R-XVM's are. 20473 would be much better though, with its nice 4 speed ZF.
It is rather bad though when the allocated spares are 1 Olympian, 3 B10M's, 1 mini Dart, 2 long Darts and 2 Solos. Although, it would be interesting to see a Dart tackle a day on 300-302 :lol:
 

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Not ideal at all, but not a lot can be done about it :(
Rather annoying that B10M's have to replace MANs so MANs can replace Scania's though. A B10M could always just replace a Scania, but I suppose the R-XVM's have a 3 speed Voith gearbox, and the MAN's have a 4 speed Voith gearbox. MAN's are, as much as it hurts me to say it, better for holding their speed than the R-XVM's are. 20473 would be much better though, with its nice 4 speed ZF.
It is rather bad though when the allocated spares are 1 Olympian, 3 B10M's, 1 mini Dart, 2 long Darts and 2 Solos. Although, it would be interesting to see a Dart tackle a day on 300-302 :lol:

When 52628 is not needed I do not see why I cannot go on the 300. Carlisle put 52629 on anything and always manages well!
 

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When 52628 is not needed I do not see why I cannot go on the 300. Carlisle put 52629 on anything and always manages well!

52628 would manage nicely, but 300 seems to get low floor priority. I suppose 30 & 31 do run every 15 minutes between Maryport and Whitehaven (albeit through different residential areas in Workington), and 31A boosts low floor availability on 31 (covering accessibility between Whitehaven and Frizington, albeit through different residential areas in the Hensingham area). Still provides a regular accessible vehicle between the destinations if a step entrance is shoved in between low floor vehicles. Whereas 300 is the only low floor service operating along the Carlisle - Wigton stretch, and of course, the only bus service serving Aspatria (since Tuesday and Friday only service 39 Aspatria - Carlisle was axed by the council).
Then of course, there is the matter of 52628 being a regular on X4 and X5, covering for the Profile's, and time spent off the road itself. Have to say, since the Jonck's were replaced by Profile's on X4 and X5 (now connecting with X50), 52628 has seemingly became much more reliable, and even seems a better performer, now it isn't being pushed hard all week every week, over 11 years.
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A Scania has just been involved in a minor incident in Wigton, on a 300 to Carlisle. The bus has hit a cyclist, after the cyclist mis-understood the signalling from the bus (indicating into a bus stop, cyclist thought the bus was turning left). An elderly woman walking to the front of the bus at the time of heavy braking, fell over near the wheelchair space, ended up rolling to the front of the bus, smashing her head off the panelling next to cab door. Ambulance on its way. The cyclist has reportedly rode off from the accident. The driver is said to be shaken, naturally.
 
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52628 would manage nicely, but 300 seems to get low floor priority. I suppose 30 & 31 do run every 15 minutes between Maryport and Whitehaven (albeit through different residential areas in Workington), and 31A boosts low floor availability on 31 (covering accessibility between Whitehaven and Frizington, albeit through different residential areas in the Hensingham area). Still provides a regular accessible vehicle between the destinations if a step entrance is shoved in between low floor vehicles. Whereas 300 is the only low floor service operating along the Carlisle - Wigton stretch, and of course, the only bus service serving Aspatria (since Tuesday and Friday only service 39 Aspatria - Carlisle was axed by the council).
Then of course, there is the matter of 52628 being a regular on X4 and X5, covering for the Profile's, and time spent off the road itself. Have to say, since the Jonck's were replaced by Profile's on X4 and X5 (now connecting with X50), 52628 has seemingly became much more reliable, and even seems a better performer, now it isn't being pushed hard all week every week, over 11 years.
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A Scania has just been involved in a minor incident in Wigton, on a 300 to Carlisle. The bus has hit a cyclist, after the cyclist mis-understood the signalling from the bus (indicating into a bus stop, cyclist thought the bus was turning left). An elderly woman walking to the front of the bus at the time of heavy braking, fell over near the wheelchair space, ended up rolling to the front of the bus, smashing her head off the panelling next to cab door. Ambulance on its way. The cyclist has reportedly rode off from the accident. The driver is said to be shaken, naturally.

However did they manage with Olympians on the 300 all those years!
 

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A Scania has just been involved in a minor incident in Wigton, on a 300 to Carlisle. The bus has hit a cyclist, after the cyclist mis-understood the signalling from the bus (indicating into a bus stop, cyclist thought the bus was turning left). An elderly woman walking to the front of the bus at the time of heavy braking, fell over near the wheelchair space, ended up rolling to the front of the bus, smashing her head off the panelling next to cab door. Ambulance on its way. The cyclist has reportedly rode off from the accident. The driver is said to be shaken, naturally.

I was naturally shaken too :lol: was quite the ordeal!

Couldn't remember my mobile number when asked for it as part of my witness statement! I was on the front facing seats by the doors so kinda seen it all really, except where the woman came from, was terrifying how fast she actually dived past me. Once at Thursby 20959 picked us up to take us through to Carlisle (Carlisle passengers from 20959 went onto 15685 back to Whitehaven end) - help speed up turnaround. Woman was taken to the Cumberland Infirmary in Carlisle and was discharged - was on my bus on the way home, same bus as well 15685.

15686 is in Carlisle depot with the red steering wheel cover of death (possibly the one that's been up to Scania)

34221, 52629, UID 79/179 Branded MAN, 34707, 47018 was over the carlisle pits. 16337 having engine looked at after it apparently 'judders badly at anything above 30).
 
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Merc 40028( normally drivers shuttle bus) sees service when Barrow are short of vehicles, Friday 10th June route 1's, deputising for a Solo.

Sat 11th June, 40028 -service 6 and 6A shuttling passengers between Dalton (Prince street and Melton roundabout), connecting with the Barrow-Ulverston 6 and 6A services for approx 3 hours whilst Dalton town centre was closed for the yearly carnival.

Nice to see the old girl still earning her keep, had a ride on her myself Sat. afternoon.
 

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A noteworthy usual allocation today, is 47023 and 47024 both on Moorclose Circulars, which they were originally transferred up for. Haven't seen this for a very very long time.

Surprise of the day goes to 20436 on 31, with its newly fitted Hanover Flip Dot!

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Apologies for lack of sharpness, and decent light.
 

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16393 has fonally gone on loan then.

It's at Kendal to cover the OT Tridents while they go to LL for internal bike racks fitting.
 

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16393 has fonally gone on loan then.

It's at Kendal to cover the OT Tridents while they go to LL for internal bike racks fitting.

Still find it pointless. If it was LL or CE whose fleet was coming off for work, they'd just be expected to use their lack of a spare fleet to cover.

On that note, 20902 on short 302's, and 47005 broke down while operating a Harrington Circular, blocking off a busy road in peak time traffic in Workington. Took a good number of big men to push it out of the way so it could be recovered, and to get traffic flowing again.

22600 and 22607 both doing some staff shuttle duties later on this afternoon. 16124, 16184 and 20436 on 31's.

15684 seems to be holding onto its gears a bit longer, was picking up speed a bit better around the town.
 

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How many SCNW depots are now left with bright tech blinds as ME withdrew 20133 last week from service?

Chorley is Bri Tech free, not aware of any at Preston either.....Ex london Tridents due over July/August after refurb x4, B10M's out...:D
 

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Just Kendal and Carlisle with BT displays now. Carlisle should replace the few they have in Darts with LEDs for simplicity....

Tridents in, B10Ms out. I take it Chorley's school routes are all going DD then?
 

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Just Carlisle and Kendal with sh*te tech's now.
Carlisle's 16336/7/8, 16355 and 33076 on BT Dot Matrix. 33162 and 34221 on BT LED.
Kendal's Leylands (except 14267), 33170/3, and 20219, 20456/7/8/9 & 20710/1/2.
 
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