Zoidberg
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Storm Gertrude - Friday 29th
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@fortroadbridge Tweeted at 12:44 saying
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D1009
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The North ECML isn't closed, trains are running through with delays in the Morpeth area.
Does anyone know what happened to last night's northbound Highland sleeper, there is no report on RTT north of Sandy where it was 8 mins early.
PHILIPE
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No, it hasn't. Just that my news must have been out of date having heard about the closure about mid-day and not entering the Forum until this afternoon.
Kite159
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Northern end of the ECML isn't closed, but two sections of single track running (between Cramlington & Morpeth + between Chathill & Berwick). Speed restrictions as well on some parts, wires are damaged around the "Belford L.C." area
11:30 from kings cross to Edinburgh is currently only 55 minutes late passing Berwick.
As much as it may appear irrelevant, having a name which can be used as a hashtag on Twitter does help when communicating storm advice and warnings to the general public. This current process is still officially a trial although I've picked up on the storm names being used in general conversation, so they do seem to have grabbed the imagination.
Llanigraham
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Are you an OHLE engineer?
We have short masts, tightly spaced and a higher tension on the OHLE between Barassie and Gailes on the Ayr line (90mph linespeed) and this morning the wire were moving up and down at least 18-24inches due to high winds. My VCB tripped numerous times in that section due to the pantograph continually losing contact with the wires. So tighter spacing and higher tension doesn't always prevent OHLE failures/damage during high winds. This same section suffered major damage 2 years ago due to high winds and a 380 pan getting wrapped round the wires and tearing them down.
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HML shut again at Dalguise
LeylandLen
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So is every named storm going to have its own thread? It appears Henry is the next in line . Whats the policy please, Editor, Mods, or whoever controls things ??
Any word on how bad the damage (if any) is?
47271
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Going by NR's Twitter it seems to be at the Tay viaduct this time rather than Inchmagrannachan, and they can't inspect until the water's gone down. The northbound sleeper is definitely going via Aberdeen so it's clearly not going to fix itself overnight. The weather in the area isn't getting any better just now either. Groan.
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Electrification, yes.
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You need proper high tension, you'll only have 11kN to 12.5kN or maybe a little higher with the equipment and tensioning in the area, for both contact and catenary wires.
We're putting in 16.5kN contact and 14kN catenary on the GWML, but for really open areas with high winds, you could get drastic and use high speed equipment and tension at 20kN contact and 14kN catenary, using larger cross section wire. That's the sort of approach used in Japan for exposed areas prone to high winds during cyclones.
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matacaster
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When these extreme weather events occur, the first train of the day is sent out to see if there is anything blocking the line or embankment or a bridge collapse etc has occurred. This sounds a somewhat risky procedure for the intrepid driver (visions of my reliable assistant 'beaker' in the muppets). Could some sort of cheap, small, self-propelled remote controlled rail vehicle or perhaps a drone wth a camera produce the same results more quickly without risking the life of the driver?
Probably, yes. But does cost v benefit work out? Has there been a incident in particular that brings the question to mind?
Llanigraham
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The train that fell of the bridge on the Heart of Wales, years ago?
edwin_m
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Yes, the Glanryd bridge collapsed under the first train of the day with a BR manager on board for the purposes of checking the line, as well as a few passengers. However as that accident showed, checking from a train can only really confirm that the track is above the waterline and no ballast has been washed away. After Glanrhyd the railway became much more aware of the risk of scouring, and that is probably why people were on site at Lamington before the service was stopped.
Deepgreen
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What is somewhat annoying is that, having decided to name some storms, the Met Office still doesn't use those names on its weather maps - particularly the surface pressure charts, where their use would seem ideal for identification purposes, rather than just "Low 947mb", etc.
OuterDistant
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It didn't actually collapse under the train; it collapsed during the night. The train was travelling at reduced speed, but still couldn't stop in time once those in the cab saw what had happened.
edwin_m
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Agreed - Railways Archive was down at the time so I couldn't check, but I've since found a very poor copy of the report in the Google cache. Three passengers and the driver killed when they couldn't get back into the second coach, which was still on what was left of the bridge, before the first one broke away.
What I don't remember reading was that there was a second smaller collapsed bridge further up the line - a track patroller fell into the gap although his fate is not recorded - so even if Glanrhyd had still been standing there would have been a serious accident to that train.
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mm333
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Single-line working for the next week between Appleby and Carlisle http://www.journeycheck.com/northernrail/
"Due to emergency engineering works between Carlisle and Appleby some lines are blocked.
"Train services between Carlisle and Leeds may be delayed by up to 60 mins or revised. Disruption is expected until 23:59 07/02.
"Please expect delays of up to 60 minutes on services between Carlisle and Appleby due to a emergency engineering works near Langwathby. All passenger trains at Armathwaite, Lazonby & Kirkoswald and Langwathby will need to use the Carlisle bound platform IN BOTH directions. As a result of this, trains may stop additionally on their journey whilst awaiting signal clearance and then proceed at a slower speed through the area."
What's happened?
"Due to emergency engineering works between Carlisle and Appleby some lines are blocked.
"Train services between Carlisle and Leeds may be delayed by up to 60 mins or revised. Disruption is expected until 23:59 07/02.
"Please expect delays of up to 60 minutes on services between Carlisle and Appleby due to a emergency engineering works near Langwathby. All passenger trains at Armathwaite, Lazonby & Kirkoswald and Langwathby will need to use the Carlisle bound platform IN BOTH directions. As a result of this, trains may stop additionally on their journey whilst awaiting signal clearance and then proceed at a slower speed through the area."
What's happened?
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trainmananthon
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Quite a number of little things have occured on the S&C over the past few weeks, which has resulted in single line working. Problems I'm aware of are:
Kink in the track near Low House Signal Box
Landslip just outside Armathwaite station
Landslip between Armathwaite tunnel and Baron-Wood 2 tunnel
Landslip just outside Wastebank tunnel
These are the problems I'm aware of, but there could be more!
Kind Regards
Anthony
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