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I know I'm an old fogey but I'm always amazed at the number of people who carry no cash but pay for everything by card, I've even seen someone buy a single item in Poundland (that's £1 for those of you who don't use such shops) and pay by card. I suppose I'm just old fashioned but I always carry a few quid for "emergencies".
 
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I know I'm an old fogey but I'm always amazed at the number of people who carry no cash but pay for everything by card, I've even seen someone buy a single item in Poundland (that's £1 for those of you who don't use such shops) and pay by card. I suppose I'm just old fashioned but I always carry a few quid for "emergencies".

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I know I'm an old fogey but I'm always amazed at the number of people who carry no cash but pay for everything by card, I've even seen someone buy a single item in Poundland (that's £1 for those of you who don't use such shops) and pay by card. I suppose I'm just old fashioned but I always carry a few quid for "emergencies".

I'm always amazed when my friends carry only cards onb them and then try to pay for minor items with them. I frequently see the trying to get up to the card limit by buying minor necessary items, or often owing me money. (Although I did recently make a 13p card transaction (a banana))
 

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I must admit I am a card person and rarely have more that £10 on me. I wonder which the gaurd prefers. More cards = lighter pockets and less risk of assult.
 

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I know I'm an old fogey but I'm always amazed at the number of people who carry no cash but pay for everything by card, I've even seen someone buy a single item in Poundland (that's £1 for those of you who don't use such shops) and pay by card. I suppose I'm just old fashioned but I always carry a few quid for "emergencies".

I do that quite frequently. I have cash for places that won't accept cards, but will use my card at Poundland and the like so as to save the cash for... places that won't accept cards.
 

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I must admit I am a card person and rarely have more that £10 on me. I wonder which the gaurd prefers. More cards = lighter pockets and less risk of assult.

As a guard I actually prefer cash ,

1) cash is much quicker to accept ,the ticket prints whilst I sort the change out
2) The card readers are terribly slow and have a terrible habit of running out of battery or unpairing themselves from the PDA meaning when you do come to take a card its a massive faff
3) I've never really considered the risk of assault to be less if I've taken more card . Unless the perpetrator has just seen you accept a large amount of cash most people who are hell-bent on assaulting you for cash will do so with no knowledge of how much cash you have they will just make an assumption.
 

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I will use my card for even the small transactions because I benefit from reward points which are given to me by my card issuer for every £1 I spend. And yes I have used it to buy a single item from the pound shop!
 

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I will use my card for even the small transactions because I benefit from reward points which are given to me by my card issuer for every £1 I spend. And yes I have used it to buy a single item from the pound shop!

It shows how out of touch I am, I didn't realise that you could get reward points. I'm now beginning to understand why people do it although I doubt the amount gained would make me change my ways, old dog, new tricks.
 

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I get 1% cashback on MasterCard transactions, so I use that for most payments. But I still carry cash with me - it's quicker unless the retailer accepts contactless, and quite a few retailers such as newsagents apply a fee to card transactions.

I did see a contactless-only vending machine at Watford Junction last year.
 

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I don't understand why more places can't take cards! It won't be long until all the major supermarkets take contactless payments, not sure if it's just the massive transactions you can get going through them that stops them doing so currently. Contactless is a million times quicker than chip and pin, although admittedly at least 75% of the time when I go to do so in my regular Costa outlets it doesn't like it and insists on entering a pin. Same for my local Spoons, although that's more like 40% of the time.

Still, it's a fairly new technology for a lot of us still, after all the banks (or at least Natwest were, and Barclays apparently still are!) were really slow to get contactless cards out to people. So since we're all using it more and more, it's only natural in busy places for the technology to not work 100% of the time.

I tried carrying cash with me recently, what an ancient way of doing things! I prefer cards when I'm work because you don't have to faff with counting people's money, or having to tell them they haven't got enough in their hand so need to get more out, no need to count change and so on. That being said, I do like giving the rude people £2 coins, the useless things can go to the customers I don't like (hey, be nice to us and we'll be so much nicer back to you!), that'll teach them to be so rude as to not even saying hello back, or saying please and thank you! <D

Cash is on its way out, whether some people like it or not. We're losing paper tickets on the railway slowly, only a matter of a few more years before notes and coins also go the way of the dodo. At long frigging last too!

I keep seeing reminders on the ATM about 1% cashback when using contactless, and I've just worked out in the last week alone I could have easily earned myself about 30p in cashback. £1.20 a month, £16.40 a year. Doesn't sound like much but it's less work I have to do to fund my hobby so I'm definitely going to pop in on Tuesday and ask about it!
 

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I'm one of those people who just pays for pretty much everything with cash. I find it's all too easy to spend more than you really should using a card, as it's somewhat 'detached'..
 

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I don't understand why more places can't take cards! It won't be long until all the major supermarkets take contactless payments, not sure if it's just the massive transactions you can get going through them that stops them doing so currently. Contactless is a million times quicker than chip and pin, although admittedly at least 75% of the time when I go to do so in my regular Costa outlets it doesn't like it and insists on entering a pin. Same for my local Spoons, although that's more like 40% of the time.

Still, it's a fairly new technology for a lot of us still, after all the banks (or at least Natwest were, and Barclays apparently still are!) were really slow to get contactless cards out to people. So since we're all using it more and more, it's only natural in busy places for the technology to not work 100% of the time.

I tried carrying cash with me recently, what an ancient way of doing things! I prefer cards when I'm work because you don't have to faff with counting people's money, or having to tell them they haven't got enough in their hand so need to get more out, no need to count change and so on. That being said, I do like giving the rude people £2 coins, the useless things can go to the customers I don't like (hey, be nice to us and we'll be so much nicer back to you!), that'll teach them to be so rude as to not even saying hello back, or saying please and thank you! <D

Cash is on its way out, whether some people like it or not. We're losing paper tickets on the railway slowly, only a matter of a few more years before notes and coins also go the way of the dodo. At long frigging last too!

I keep seeing reminders on the ATM about 1% cashback when using contactless, and I've just worked out in the last week alone I could have easily earned myself about 30p in cashback. £1.20 a month, £16.40 a year. Doesn't sound like much but it's less work I have to do to fund my hobby so I'm definitely going to pop in on Tuesday and ask about it!

The Costa at my uni here in London insists on only accepting chip&pin for £3 or more, but accepts contactless at any amount! And with a 20% discount for students or staff :D, it means awkward amounts of money so you end up with a bunch of coppers. Oh, and I'd rather have £2 coins than coppers :lol:

My local Sainsbury's store (well, a standard store, not the "local" branded ones ;)) doesn't appear to accept contactless at self-service terminals, despite having the hardware to do so :?. On the other hand, at Tesco it gives separate options for card and for contactless, and means if you select the former but use the latter the computer doesn't like it and asks you to select the contactless option and try again!
 

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I'm one of those people who just pays for pretty much everything with cash. I find it's all too easy to spend more than you really should using a card, as it's somewhat 'detached'..

That's true, but I also find myself spending cash a little too easily. Especially once you break a note and the change just can't wait to disappear on anything.

With contact less payments, I prefer to use my card all the time I can. As it's a debit card from the same account I'd take cash from, it's all the same to me.
 

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I'm one of those people who just pays for pretty much everything with cash. I find it's all too easy to spend more than you really should using a card, as it's somewhat 'detached'..

I did that in January. Spent £580 that month without realising :o :cry: and a few weeks later didn't realise that a weekly travelcard would have been at least £5 cheaper than PAYG for peak travel on four consecutive days, let alone the remaining days.
 

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Temple Meads: I used to be like that, quite a lot of people I know are also like it. However, I got fed up of constantly being skint, so I did something about it. It's quite simple really, and I address this to yourself and anyone else who cares to read it:

1) List everything you HAVE to pay for every month (whether that's every 4 weeks, the last Friday of the month, the 28th of every month, whenever), and make sure it's a comprehensive list. I know that sounds obvious, to make sure you list everything, but it's easier than you think to forget Direct Debits and Standing Orders. Trust me on that one! ;)

2) Take said list and keep it somewhere convenient for checking or just referring to. In my case I keep mine as a memo file on my phone. I haven't had to refer to it for a while but it's handy to have it there.

3) Let's say you've got a bill that weighs in at £28.50. What would I log this as? £30. Why would I do that, I hear you ask? It's very simple really. One, it makes it easier to make calculations. Two, no matter what happens, you've always got that little bit in the bank to fall back on if things do go belly up.

4) I'd imagine this one is obvious, but get the calculator out and total it all up. Even if you think you're good at arithmetic, mental or otherwise, it's handy to have the calculator there to confirm your figures or correct them if necessary (I've had that happen a few times, easily done!)

5) Now work out what you get paid every month, and any other income (Working Tax Credit etc) that comes in.

6) This one should be obvious. Take your total for your mandatory outgoings (all the stuff you HAVE to pay out for) and deduct it from your income. Whatever's left is what you've got to play with, but I'm not quite done yet, and while all of the above should only be common sense it took a long time to get it into my head so I hope the above helps someone.

7) We're nearly there now you'll be glad to know. What's made a bigdifference to me has been logging every single transaction I use my card for. No matter how big or small it is, it's logged. A memo file on my phone does that for me, and once a pay period is over I'll check it over and make sure all is good. I lay out said file a little like the below, with things like dates obviously changing and the below is just an example:

Spending Log 03/04-03/04 p1

03/04

£8.43 Asda
(£21.57 left)

Obviously this goes on for every day of each pay period, and I've been doing this for several months now. I don't know why I didn't do this before, it's brilliant! In the above example, I've only put Asda as I know which store it is. If it was a non-regular purchase I'd add in the town/city I visited, which makes it a lot easier to track on a bank statement!

8) Last one, and this is the biggest difference I've made and is how I'm never skint these days. It took a while to get used to it, but it does work if you're willing to force yourself to adapt. What's this huge change, the change that sounds like you've got to give up everything?

Budgeting, quite simply. For the first week, don't commit to it straight away, have a normal week and then, after that 7 days is over, count it all up. Everything, leave no transaction out. Let's say you spend £57.45 that week on day-to-day living (sandwiches, drinks, visit to the pub, whatever), for the next week give yourself a £60 budget. If you can live within that budget, taking into account unusual activity (Burger King vice McDonalds, evening out instead of a night in, etc), try going down to £50 the week after and see if it can still be lived within.

If you know you've got a tight few weeks ahead (birthdays coming up, trip away etc), then knock your budget down a bit (£40 instead of £60, £30 instead of £50 etc) and be tight fisted for a week or two. That's what I do, like with my next weekly spending budget, I'll allow myself a £50 spending budget (the upper limit in my mandatory outgoings) as I know I'm going to be away from home so will be eating fast food, obviously bringing in an expense I don't normally have on an average week. I'll also not have the opportunity to pop the kettle on for a coffee when I want to either, so have to make visits to Costa outlets wherever I'm going, another non-average expense. I'm sure you can see what I mean about allowing extra money now. This week I'm budgeting to spend no more than £30 (Friday to Thursday I do my spending budgets), which means I'll then have an emergency £20 should I need it next week when I'm away. I don't always need it, but you don't know what's going to come up!

So yeah, it's incredibly easy to spend everything on a card and not become skint. You just need willpower! I know I've gone into quite the long post here, but it's also somewhat relevant to the 'shove it onto the card' mentality a lot of us have these days. It IS easy to overspend when paying for it all by card, but as I hope I've detailed above, it IS easy not to do so if you apply common sense and log it all. I'm not perfect, I still waste money on stuff now and again, I get lazy just as much as the rest of us from time to time. Still, if you make yourself be sensible with card use, and log it all, you can still 'see' it going out via your logs. Trust me, it becomes rather sobering when you see how much you spend in one shop, how much you spend in the pub! Been there done that, watching the numbers fall away as I tap it into the calculator!

Anyway, I hope this post is of benefit to someone at least!
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I did that in January. Spent £580 that month without realising :o :cry: and a few weeks later didn't realise that a weekly travelcard would have been at least £5 cheaper than PAYG for peak travel on four consecutive days, let alone the remaining days.

I direct you to the above post I've just made. Follow it to the letter and you will stop having such problems. Plus if you had asked on the forum, I'm sure the Gods of Ticketing could have provided you with the cheapest way to do things! As the saying goes, if you don't ask you don't get!

Should you require any expansion on the points I've made in my last post on this thread (should be just above this one), feel free to ask. Tweet me or PM me here if you should so wish.
 

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I use cash almost all of the time unless im buying something big or im buying online(usually use a credit card then anyway ) ,

at the start of every month I take out the cash I intend to spend that month and split it up into things its for - Food, Fuel , entertainment etc . Then keep it in a safe in the house .I then just take out what I need - so if im going to do my weekly shopping I will take the money for that , If I know the car will need fuelling up that day I can take the cash for that . I then leave enough money in my account to cover all my direct debits for that month anything left at the end of the month gets put into a savings account (I have Direct debits for a regular saver as well ).

I find it much easier to deal with it like that , I could use a spending log on my phone but then if I go into the shop just to pick up a bottle of water id have to add that to my log and i know I would inevitably forgot or end up not adding stuff if my phone battery is dead or something .
 

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I use cash for anything I cant use a debbit card for and dont find my spending much different. If anything (and this applys to work travel or bashing trips) not having a large ammount of cash to hand means I spend less as that bottle of water and kitkat from an independant keyosk at a bus station or that coffee from the onboard trolley dont get bought.
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Only downside to this is I'll get to the Barber and realise Iv noute to pay him with!
 

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I will use my card for even the small transactions because I benefit from reward points which are given to me by my card issuer for every £1 I spend. And yes I have used it to buy a single item from the pound shop!

I am the same. I get 1% cashback on my MasterCard, and 1.25% with American Express.

You do of course have to make sure you set up a direct debit each month to pay off your balance in full each month otherwise you would get charged which would negate the interest earned. For companies that charge to use a card I have a debit card as they are rarely ever charged for.

I also have a Santander current account which pays either 1, 2, or 3 percent for paying regular monthly bills, (such as energy) by direct debit.

Paying for almost everything by card means that with the credit cards and bank account I make over to £200 a year, for doing nothing!
 

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I prefer cash payments because they are instantaneous (I've had a small debit card transaction come off several months afterwards on one occasion and it put me into an unauthorised overdraft). For example, I made my deposit on my current flat in cash as the agent would only take the flat off the market when the funds had cleared (which would take longer by card, bank transaction or cheque). Also, if I'm at the end of a month and don't have much money I find it easier to use cash to budget because the money leaves the account instantaneously, whereas by using card it may be several days before the debit clears from my account. But I do use card more frequently than I did in the past. It's easier than withdrawing cash and spending it instantaneously, for example at the supermarket. But I still use cash regularly, and always carry cash on me. It's still an almost universally acceptable payment method.

However, I wonder if the advent of contactless technology will make scenarios like the £1 card transaction more common - I now use contactless at a local co-op quite regularly, whereas in the past I would have paid in cash. New mobile payment technology such as Apple Pay could accelerate the decline in use of cash by making contactless payments more widely available.
 

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I usually pay by card (yes, I have bought something for £1 in Poundland), mainly because at the end of the month, when I'm trying not to spend any money, it's much easier to keep track of (especially when I can just check my bank balance on my phone).

My partner uses card even more, and rarely has any cash on her, primarily because she hates the metal smell/feel of coins and avoids using them at all costs.
 

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I usually pay by card (yes, I have bought something for £1 in Poundland), mainly because at the end of the month, when I'm trying not to spend any money, it's much easier to keep track of (especially when I can just check my bank balance on my phone)

Interesting that we have different approaches to the same problem!
 

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I don't understand why more places can't take cards! It won't be long until all the major supermarkets take contactless payments, not sure if it's just the massive transactions you can get going through them that stops them doing so currently. Contactless is a million times quicker than chip and pin, although admittedly at least 75% of the time when I go to do so in my regular Costa outlets it doesn't like it and insists on entering a pin. Same for my local Spoons, although that's more like 40% of the time.

Still, it's a fairly new technology for a lot of us still, after all the banks (or at least Natwest were, and Barclays apparently still are!) were really slow to get contactless cards out to people. So since we're all using it more and more, it's only natural in busy places for the technology to not work 100% of the time.

I tried carrying cash with me recently, what an ancient way of doing things! I prefer cards when I'm work because you don't have to faff with counting people's money, or having to tell them they haven't got enough in their hand so need to get more out, no need to count change and so on. That being said, I do like giving the rude people £2 coins, the useless things can go to the customers I don't like (hey, be nice to us and we'll be so much nicer back to you!), that'll teach them to be so rude as to not even saying hello back, or saying please and thank you! <D

Cash is on its way out, whether some people like it or not. We're losing paper tickets on the railway slowly, only a matter of a few more years before notes and coins also go the way of the dodo. At long frigging last too!

I keep seeing reminders on the ATM about 1% cashback when using contactless, and I've just worked out in the last week alone I could have easily earned myself about 30p in cashback. £1.20 a month, £16.40 a year. Doesn't sound like much but it's less work I have to do to fund my hobby so I'm definitely going to pop in on Tuesday and ask about it!

You must have a problem with your card, I work for Costa and I'd say less than 1% of contactless transactions fail, so if it's happening to you a lot its very likely to be your card.

Paying contactless reduces fees for the companies you're paying, so it's a good thing for them too

I think young people are just used to being able to pay by card and it not being a problem.

I only really carry enough cash on me for the car parking I need on that day. Only if I'm going bashing/football/on a night out will I go and consciously carry a reserve of cash with me.
 

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The Costa at my uni here in London insists on only accepting chip&pin for £3 or more, but accepts contactless at any amount! And with a 20% discount for students or staff :D, it means awkward amounts of money so you end up with a bunch of coppers. Oh, and I'd rather have £2 coins than coppers :lol:

A £2 coin weighs a damn sight more than a £20 note and causes more wear to the cloth of your pockets.

Doesn't anyone else carry 10 x £20 notes as normal small change?
 

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I've put 1p on a card before, after being a penny short at the self-service till.
 

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A £2 coin weighs a damn sight more than a £20 note and causes more wear to the cloth of your pockets.

Doesn't anyone else carry 10 x £20 notes as normal small change?

I don't know if you're being ironic or not, but the amount of people I see who carry large wads of cash with them has always baffled me.
 

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I used to do that when I was frequently paid in cash while self-employed, and couldn't really be bothered to go to a bank all that frequently.
 

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I'm one of those people who just pays for pretty much everything with cash. I find it's all too easy to spend more than you really should using a card, as it's somewhat 'detached'..

I usually pay by card (yes, I have bought something for £1 in Poundland), mainly because at the end of the month, when I'm trying not to spend any money, it's much easier to keep track of (especially when I can just check my bank balance on my phone).

My partner uses card even more, and rarely has any cash on her, primarily because she hates the metal smell/feel of coins and avoids using them at all costs.

Funny isn't it, one person finds it easier to keep track by using cash while another achieves the same by using their card.

As a slight aside a few years ago I went to the Halifax to pay off my mortgage and had to pay by cheque as they couldn't take a debit card payment.
 

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I rarely pay with cash, although I keep a spare £10-£15 in cash for emergencies, along with some change for small transactions.

However, I have spent 10p at a NR TVM with my debit card to top-up my Oyster card once or twice and under £1 at self-checkouts.
 

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I have noticed something of a north/south divide. In London it is quite common for even small newsagents and takeaways to accept card transactions. Indeed, in my local area I can think of one fish and chip shop which will not take cards, and that's it. On the other hand up north it's still mainly chain shops and bigger independent ones which will take cards. Go to a newsgents with a card and you'd be laughed out! As a student I used to use cash a lot more. What I did for a while is withdraw £50 to last me for the week, in the form of £5 notes. This meant I could take £5 for each day's spending and then the remaining £20 for whatever may crop up - I used my debit card for emergencies, or if I was buying something and didn't have the cash on me.

Contactless has had a big impact as it's a lot quicker, however it will still require verification from time to time. Which is awkward when some tills have contactless but not chip & pin readers, so cash must be carried for these just in case.
 
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