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SWR Metro fleet permanent withdrawals
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WarrenTManager
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5902 will go by road. Date tbc
5912/5916 should be the units by rail on Monday.
5909 will also go by road. It is donating a one motor bogie to each of 5714/5868.
5905 is off lease. Method of movement tbc
Goldfish62
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All sounds like the beginning of ramping up of withdrawals?
WarrenTManager
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C6 drop dead dates starting to bite.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Which /9s will then remain in service?
After their moves: 5901, 5903, 5904, 5908, 5910, 5911, 5913, 5914, 5915, 5919 and 5920.
Was hoping 5912 would be one of the last to go as it was always slightly different to the others. It had a different chopper to the other 455/9s. 5912 sounded more like a class 319 chopper than the other type which were higher pitched. It also retained the original style door key switch for ages (coat hanger type) plus still has a class 210 coach in it. Oh well.
Peter Mugridge
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455 912 is also one of the ones with a class 210 vehicle in it; 67400.
WarrenTManager
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The C6 overhaul order was 5711/5904/58 can’t remember/then the rest of the 57s/ then 59s/then 58s hence now a lot of 59s dropping off together when the C6 is due. There is C4 mileage to add to the equation that will knock other units off as well but in theory the 57s will be the last ones as they had a C6 of sorts more recently.
SWT_USER
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Is the 701 introduction able to keep pace with these withdrawals, or are we likely to see more short forms/ cancellations in the short term?
Sorry so does this mean 5711 was one of the last (and thus most recent) to get a C6, I had this unit earlier in the week and noted how all the wheel sets looked very clean and shiny, more so than most other 455s!
Juniper Driver
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5913 has a 210 coach in it as well?
It did, that was the unit involved with the Oxshott cement mixer accident and the carriage most significantly damaged by that was replaced with the donated 210 one.
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norbitonflyer
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Heavily modified - notably by removal of the cab, and the fitting of below-solebar equipment, including motor bogies, salvaged from the damaged motor coach.
That coach did have an interesting life. I think (but not 100% sure) that coach at Strawberry hill depot was numbered 7001 when it had a cab. This was around 1989 or early 90s? I'm also sure it had motors fitted to it then. I did read about its 'cut and shut' job it with the damaged trailer following Oxshott and was impressed. I suppose it won't be around long now either.
Does anyone know many units are left? The new 3 year lease was for up to 79 units. Is there 79 left? Pretty sure the answer is no to that. The £46,200,000 seemed excessive seeing as the lessor doesn't have to pay for repairs (if I read it right). It did get me wondering how much the scrap value of a 455 unit was, and why DFT didn't just just buy the units at scrap value. There's bound to be a logical reason, I just can't think of one.
DBS92042
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5912/5916 made it as far as Bristol Parkway before a brake issue on one/both of the units halted progress.
37800 then continued alone leaving both 455s in the loop at Bristol Parkway
Southern Dvr
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Doesn’t make sense to leave the units behind unless the units brakes are alleged to have contributed to the alleged SPAD.
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Train seemed to leave parkway, almost reach Patchway then reverse, my video from parkway here. 37800 at parkway, my recording . Filmed after reversal into parkway
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Suraggu
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That’s a serious allegation to post on a public rail forum. I hope you have evidence to back up this claim.
TT-ONR-NRN
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He doesn’t need evidence to report that he was told something.
He said he was told it was a SPAD, not that it was a SPAD.
Suraggu
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It’s still a considerable allegation to make on a public forum, whether it was passed on or not.
4 car 455 to Windsor anyone??
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Realtime Trains | 0633 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside | 24/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0633 departure from London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside on 24/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Whatever you say, Constable.
Goldfish62
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Makes a change from Reading.4 car 455 to Windsor anyone??
Realtime Trains | 0633 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside | 24/06/2025
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@Goldfish62 I wouldn't get too happy, I spotted a 455 vice 450 on the 2C11 diagram todayMakes a change from Reading.
Juniper Driver
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Yeah...Thanks.
4SubAsociation
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For anyone that is interested. Here is the thread regarding the Motor Coach 67300 from the 457/210 which was recently repainted.
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Still reminds of the day i got the picture of the both 5912 and 5913 together. (taken 14/12/2024).
67301 was owned by the SERA, there was a plan to use it to reform a 210 at the time, but as discussed on the below thread, the motor coaches could not be extracted from where it was located. It was eventually sold back to a leasing company in the mid 2000s and then reworked to a replacement 455 motor coach (for 455913)
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Suburban Electric Railway Association updates. Tyneside EPB, 2-EPB 6307, Class 457, Spondon and Ruston 165DE Mazda
Tyneside EPB is in store pending start of restoration work at Shackerstone (Battlefield Railway) benefited from a jet wash back in November 2022. The unit lives in a siding in a tree lined cutting and this means it attracts green algae as it is not moved for long periods of time. More recently...
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Still reminds of the day i got the picture of the both 5912 and 5913 together. (taken 14/12/2024).
67301 was owned by the SERA, there was a plan to use it to reform a 210 at the time, but as discussed on the below thread, the motor coaches could not be extracted from where it was located. It was eventually sold back to a leasing company in the mid 2000s and then reworked to a replacement 455 motor coach (for 455913)
Class 210 Driving Motor
33056 for these things must be absurdly rare unless there's one lying around in a box in Derby somewhere. One of the videos ( the one with the powercar at the back ) appears to show it notching up after it's got moving a bit, but there's a footbridge in the way to muddle matters. Searching...
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