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https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05702/2019-12-14/detailed this...? same place, right...?Move from Central Rivers tomorrow
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05702/2019-12-14/detailed this...? same place, right...?Move from Central Rivers tomorrow
Yes. it is great to see progress in the new fleet arriving.https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05702/2019-12-14/detailed this...? same place, right...?
I suppose the 170s qualify as part of the new fleet, as they (along with the Mark 4s and 230s) will be staying long term alongside the 197s, 231s, 398s and 756sYes. it is great to see progress in the new fleet arriving.
170s and pacers shouldn't need to work together anyway as the pacers are apparently only being used on Cardiff Valley/Local services from the timetable change, mainly the Rhymney line I think. 170s are working Ebbw Vale, Maesteg and Cheltenham so not the proper valley lines so they shouldn't need to interact with pacers. .
I guess at what point does movement of these units switch from newsworthy (first one), through mildly interesting (maybe the next few), to somewhat unremarkable. I suspect given your comment about the lack of spotters for more recent ones we've reached that point except for the most hard core of number enthusiasts, both in terms of photographing them and indeed reporting on them on a thread such as this.All this going back and forth has been tiring me out; this means that I won't be capturing video of 170273 coming back today. I think I'm now going to wait until the next Tyseley to Canton move (whenever that may be). If anyone knows of any 170/2s other than 170202 and 170272 entering service before the 16/12/19, please can they let me know...? Thanks in advance
You probably have a point; nethertheless I did in fact end up recording video of 170273 coming back to Cardiff afterallI guess at what point does movement of these units switch from newsworthy (first one), through mildly interesting (maybe the next few), to somewhat unremarkable. I suspect given your comment about the lack of spotters for more recent ones we've reached that point except for the most hard core of number enthusiasts, both in terms of photographing them and indeed reporting on them on a thread such as this.
Nice one for that
How many 170s are now in Wales and how many are TfW waiting for? Are there more 153s to come too?Nice one for that
10 170/2s are based in Wales (2-cars 270/272/273 and 3-cars 201/202/203/204/206/207/208).How many 170s are now in Wales and how many are TfW waiting for? Are there more 153s to come too?
...which tallies with an instruction we have whereby if you have to assist a Cl14X you may only couple mechanically not electrically.
I'll probably agree with her after I get my first ride on one in the new year Maybe except the legroom though, but then again I'm 6' 3" tall...Er, do you mind telling us what you think about the "new" train(s)...?
Well, we got on it in um, Newbridge this morning, and, very very comfortable, really warm, and plenty of legroom, and I think it's a fantastic train.
I'll probably agree with her after I get my first ride on one in the new year Maybe except the legroom though, but then again I'm 6' 3" tall...
I think unless you're short the leg room is awful full stop, I'm only 5' 11" and have issues on XC 170s that I catch on a regular basis
Which 170s are these? There are some that have 10 rows in the centre section on which legroom is OKish (i.e. give or take the priority row you have either a bay or two airline seats aligned with each window), and there are some with 11 rows (the ex-MML ones) and those are awful, about the same as 153s.
Chiltern's are all 10 rows, but I've lost track of where the others ended up and if any have been changed.
I agree. We have entirely Cross Country Class170s from my station and the leg room in some (not all) of the airline seats is very poor.Honestly I don't know, it may also be the fact that I've got fairly long legs for my height. Its only an issue when I'm sat with someone rather than when on my own angling my legs
the ex-MML "11-row" ones are the 170/1s if that helpsHonestly I don't know, it may also be the fact that I've got fairly long legs for my height. Its only an issue when I'm sat with someone rather than when on my own angling my legs
thanks for that still just those two in use until tomorrow I take it, when at least some of 201/203/204/206/207/208/270/273 will enter passenger service...?170272 1625 Cardiff Cen to Cheltenham
170202 1629 Cardiff Cen to Ebbw Vale
thanks for that still just those two in use until tomorrow I take it, when at least some of 201/203/204/206/207/208/270/273 will enter passenger service...?
Right. So we reckon at least a few more will enter service tomorrow...?I haven't seen any photographs anywhere for you to beg for
Uh oh... Teething problems, huh...? I'm guessing we'll see how reliable some of the other units are tomorrow...?The second trip of the Ebbw Vale terminated Cross Keys due failure and returned ECS to Canton
the ex-MML "11-row" ones are the 170/1s if that helps
Very well observed! Until my first ride on a TfW 170 in the new year, I've only been on XC and WMT 170s (including a WMT one with a table missing!)There are also two types of seat base used (the cushions are mostly the same across all of them other than some Chiltern units). Some 170s (ScotRail, Chiltern) use the Chapman plastic base which curves in at the sides and has a niche (if your knees will sit together). This creates more apparent legroom. Some others (ex-MML and ex-CT) use a different, more solid metal base which is very square and quite thick and does not offer as much space.
Uh oh... Teething problems, huh...? I'm guessing we'll see how reliable some of the other units are tomorrow...?