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The X Factor winner is bowled!

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4SRKT

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It occured to me earlier that the overall message in Killing in the name is 'don't do what your told'. Yet thats what we all did in downloading it.

Except that there probably wasn't intended to be any message. Killing in the Name is an anti-racist song, so not related to the X Factor at all. Cowell may be lots of things, but I doubt anyone would suggest he's a racist. The only point was to stop the X Factor winner being Christmas number one, and it worked :). Whatever song was chosen would have been seen as inappropriate in some way by some people.

Well done Rage against the machine, message fail.

But is was the Facebook group who started this. RATM were simply the chosen act, and had nothing to do with it.
 
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'F**k you I won't do what you tell me' What other message could that have?

It's a song written 17 years ago that's been co-opted into this campaign. The song itself is about racism in America and not going along with it. It has nothing to do with Simon Cowell telling people what to do (not that he really does that anyway: nobody has to buy any X Factor rubbish), although it does make a handy bit of sloganeering for the Facebook campaign.
 

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It's a song written 17 years ago that's been co-opted into this campaign. The song itself is about racism in America and not going along with it. It has nothing to do with Simon Cowell telling people what to do (not that he really does that anyway: nobody has to buy any X Factor rubbish), although it does make a handy bit of sloganeering for the Facebook campaign.

I knew that ;)
 

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I don't see everyons obsession wit this.. fair enough, they dont want another X Factor Winner, BUT the same could be done if chavs were asked to join a group saying "bassline dj dannny bond for Christmas Number 1" and vice versa.

But the fact that people were so heart intent on them just being number... and forgetting the message behind it is kinda weird =/
 

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It's a good song. Not really a Christmas song, but if people bought it to protest against X-Factor then good for them.

Despite the 22m ratings, a lot of people probably only do so in order to see how bad it is (you know, those people who read the Daily Mail to get outraged!) and take the p**s out of it. They don't vote, don't care for the talent - which is poor compared to previous/early years - but watch anyway. Some people HAVE to watch it because their friends/colleagues watch it.

And some will watch because it is that sort of dumbed down TV that reflects modern TV. Large graphics, crashing sound effects and shouting. It could just as well be Fox News.

Lookign at Big Brother; eventually people all gave up. Nobody watched just in case something decent happened. Nobody felt left out when people at work were talking about it. In fact, people would be wondering why on earth you'd watch such dross.

This will happen to X-Factor.

Simon Cowell knows this too. He's a very shrewd business man and I'm certain he's already looking to move on and adapt to something else.

We may kill off X-Factor, but we'll still be seeing him (or one of his TV productions) on television for many years to come.

Personally, the idea of a TV talent show isn't bad. It just need to concentrate on real talent and less on hype. The contestants that went through to the final stages weren't good enough. No single person(s) could have ever been real world-class winners. Perhaps part of this comes down to the way the minority, who actually vote and don't simply watch, vote. Are the kids voting for the talent and skill, or who they like the look of, who they've read about most in the well manipulated press..? Look at 'Jedward' - they were AWFUL, but arguably could be good entertainers.. but this was the wrong programme for them in the first place.
 
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