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Dead End, bit of new point work and a concrete pad for loading. It has been kept pretty quiet in the grand scheme of things. As a side note, I just hope Liberty Steel gets sorted in Rotherham, as that could be a massive blow to the areas freight.Thanks for posting, I had not read about this!
I see from the first two photos that this is taking shape at the south end of the yard, right beneath where the depot was.
Will it be a dead end still at the south, or do they plan to reopen the quarter of a mile to Treeton, giving faster access to the south?
Oh well, at least the terminal is another couple of 250 yards reopened in a way - maybe one day it'll get to Treeton..Dead End, bit of new point work and a concrete pad for loading. It has been kept pretty quiet in the grand scheme of things. As a side note, I just hope Liberty Steel gets sorted in Rotherham, as that could be a massive blow to the areas freight.
Container traffic won't be going through Worksop any time soon. Southampton traffic will need to either run via Nottingham & Lincoln or via Barrow Hill (or, I suppose, Sheffield station) and runround at kilnhurst goods loop, which is only 29 chains long (580m or so). They could also add a runround facility on the Stocksbridge branch if longer trains were needed.Soton traffic needs to go through Sheffield centre and Nunnery first - although it could be done via Nottingham, Worksop, Doncaster, which appears to get some freight these days.
The application states: "Operations are proposed primarily for container traffic. Projected volumes will be significantly lower than those carried in the 1960’s; the reinstated site will handle perhaps five trains each way every day (at around 50‐55 containers per train) once fully operational. Rather like the complementary facility at Doncaster iPort, it will probably take some two or three years to achieve that volume
That's still a considerable amount of traffic off the roads, nothing to be sneezed at.The application states: "Operations are proposed primarily for container traffic. Projected volumes will be significantly lower than those carried in the 1960’s; the reinstated site will handle perhaps five trains each way every day (at around 50‐55 containers per train) once fully operational. Rather like the complementary facility at Doncaster iPort, it will probably take some two or three years to achieve that volume
Who's sneezing!?That's still a considerable amount of traffic off the roads, nothing to be sneezed at.
The way the report is written with the tone of "it's not as busy as it used to be" sounds somewhat dismissive. But any growth in rail freight is a good thing!Who's sneezing!?
Ah, I didn't realize Woodburn J had been a triangle - would indeed be easier!Container traffic won't be going through Worksop any time soon. Southampton traffic will need to either run via Nottingham & Lincoln or via Barrow Hill (or, I suppose, Sheffield station) and runround at kilnhurst goods loop, which is only 29 chains long (580m or so). They could also add a runround facility on the Stocksbridge branch if longer trains were needed.
If direct access for So'ton traffic is required then either the Treeton link as you say, or the closed curve at Woodburn Jn could be reinstated for Barrow Hill/Beighton Jn/Woodhouse/Broughton Lane routing.
Actually, having looked at what I've written direct access to Tinsley from Chesterfield is possible now (In theory), running via Sheffield Station, Nunnery Main Line and Woodburn Jn. However the path being available at a time attractive to operators is another matter entirely...Ah, I didn't realize Woodburn J had been a triangle - would indeed be easier!
10/10 totally agree.That's still a considerable amount of traffic off the roads, nothing to be sneezed at.
Agreed, a good thing. I didn't get any sense of the report being dismissive, more a case of "it won't be a busy marshalling yard with clanking couplings day and night"The way the report is written with the tone of "it's not as busy as it used to be" sounds somewhat dismissive. But any growth in rail freight is a good thing!
Ah, okay. It does make sense that way. I withdraw my objection.Agreed, a good thing. I didn't get any sense of the report being dismissive, more a case of "it won't be a busy marshalling yard with clanking couplings day and night"
Is this the site behind Brinsworth and near the redundant Sheffield Airport please?
Yeah, it's literally 5 mins walk from Brinsworth village centre and my house.
Oh well, at least the terminal is another couple of 250 yards reopened in a way - maybe one day it'll get to Treeton..
Until then.. to reach from the South is if coming via Doncaster. That gives - Felixstowe - March - P'Boro - Gainsborough - Doncaster - Rotherham - Tinsley, with run-round at Ipswich only.
Soton traffic needs to go through Sheffield centre and Nunnery first - although it could be done via Nottingham, Worksop, Doncaster, which appears to get some freight these days.
We can run round at Kilnhurst, so no need to go as far as Donny if coming via Barrowhill.No requirement to reverse at Ipswich anymore to reach Tinsley run either via Bacon Factory Curve just north of Ipswich or come via GEML, NLL and ECML between Ipswich and Peterborough.
I think you might have problems running Class 4 Freight with W10 sized containers via Sheffield. So Southampton Freight might have to reverse at Doncaster having travelled via Barrow Hill or from Reading via GWML, NLL, Kings Cross Incline and the ECML to approach Tinsley from the North.
Out of interest, do you know what the max length train Tinsley will be able to accept is?We can run round at Kilnhurst, so no need to go as far as Donny if coming via Barrowhill.
Unfortunately not, though i'm guessing with such a clean and spacious canvas, very long.Out of interest, do you know what the max length train Tinsley will be able to accept is?
All lines and turnouts between the Wood Lane bridge and the A630 bridge have been lifted.Out of interest, do you know what the max length train Tinsley will be able to accept is?
Thanks for the update!All lines and turnouts between the Wood Lane bridge and the A630 bridge have been lifted.
A two track formation has been re-laid between the two bridges.
Some of the eastern track has been replaced but is not complete or aligned.
There is now a south facing turnout at about 175m from Wood Lane bridge.
This leaves another 500m beyond.
The whole area between the two bridges is involved
There is nothing new north of Wood Lane Bridge except for the new road access and site work.
There has been work at the Tinsley South and Broughton Lane junctions with the mechanical bits all looking all new, bright and shinny.