I know coal traffic has been in terminal decline, but why are so many 'relatively' modern locos in such a poor state of repair. You can perhaps understand older Class 20, 31 or 37, but Class 60s ?
Aren't there a number of Class 66s and 67s that are long-term out of use as well?
I know coal traffic has been in terminal decline, but why are so many 'relatively' modern locos in such a poor state of repair. You can perhaps understand older Class 20, 31 or 37, but Class 60s ?
There are, but very small numbers of each compared to the amount of stored 60s.
I've noticed 66008 hasn't moved in a while. Are there many other 66s out of use?
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They're all waiting for a coal traffic revival.
Some of the "Super 60s" have been out of traffic for a long while now. The likes of 60010 60015 have been out for a long while
They're all waiting for a coal traffic revival.
If you believe Rail magazine all the 60's can be repaired if needed.
As it's been said before hell will freeze over before that happens!!
Export to China?
Sell them to the US?Which won't happen.They're all waiting for a coal traffic revival.
The real question is why some of the sorriest examples (e.g. fire-damaged 60081) are still sitting there and haven't been scrapped yet..?
If you believe Rail magazine all the 60's can be repaired if needed.
As it's been said before hell will freeze over before that happens!!
Although coal, steel and oil are in decline aggregates are healthy and growing. I believe the 60s have a real advantage over 66s in terms of their ability to haul heavier trains: if so there is a possible reason why they might be useful in the future.
For example, while its not clear why a 4000t train went to Tytherington yesterday, there is no way a 66 would be able to handle a train of that weight.
Nic
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Originally Posted by nicjoynson
Although coal, steel and oil are in decline aggregates are healthy and growing. I believe the 60s have a real advantage over 66s in terms of their ability to haul heavier trains: if so there is a possible reason why they might be useful in the future.
For example, while its not clear why a 4000t train went to Tytherington yesterday, there is no way a 66 would be able to handle a train of that weight.
Nic
Was that not 59 hauled? Is that tonnage based on the timing load? The main problem for the 60 is the low top speed.
According to WNXX DBC has 10 66s stored: 008/043/046/058/081/132/141/172/184/250.
Export to China?
66172 must've gone into storage recently though, as I saw it in January this year.
You have to wonder what DBs ultimate plans are for all these locos, plus the 58s stored across the water. There doesn't seem to be much chance that they will let them go to another UK FOC (and why would they, especially after what happened with the Colas 60s) so the likelihood of any of them seeing work in the UK again has to be approaching zero.
What did happen to them?
You have to wonder what DBs ultimate plans are for all these locos, plus the 58s stored across the water. There doesn't seem to be much chance that they will let them go to another UK FOC (and why would they, especially after what happened with the Colas 60s) so the likelihood of any of them seeing work in the UK again has to be approaching zero.
Perhaps they're hoping that they'll be used on the HS2 construction project, assuming that they get the contract.
60081 Isambard Kingdom Brunel may be the one you're thinking of. It 'threw a leg out of bed' in April 2005; in other words, a piston/rod broke through the engine casing. Given the seriousness of this failure and the length of time it's been sat out in open storage since, a return to service for 081 looks to be highly unlikely.I am sure they can be repaired if required and the economic drivers exist. A couple might be beyond economic repair mind. Did one not have engine internals make a break for freedom through the side of the engine?